Apparently it's been voted in that there is to be a ban on smoking in all public places and work places. Ok, so, what happens if, and I mean if, this encourages more and more people to stop smoking? Where does all the money come from that was being generated from the taxation on a packet of a fags?
Good point, there will be some reduction in the cost of treating chronic respiritory diesese, but all these people living longer and drawing more pension ??? </p> PS are you still stopped ?</p>
Taxpayer, or drinkers will be hammered. In fact make that taxpayer 'cause drinkers will reduce with a smoking ban in pubs.
They wouldnt ban it unless they have a plan. They must have calculated that the medical costs would outweigh the tax revenue raised.</p> Thats assuming that people have the smarts to give up smoking in the 1st place.</p>
On the other hand If there was not a ban, in future there would be bar workers with cancer demanding compensation from the government for not protecting them. Thats why they had to ban smoking.
I am sure you could get someone to sign a disclaimer, or employ cheap illegal immigrants, I am sure either is a viable option.</p>
Thats what business and making profit is all about. Illegals wont say a word and you could probs pay them less as well.</p> Its a WIN WIN situation if you ask me!</p>
NHS savings won't really be seen for many years to come But the reduced revenue from *** sales will hit immediately and the Chancellor will have to do something right away to plug that gap. Lets see how many people are pro a smoking ban when the cost of their pint and petrol go through the roof again
RE: NHS savings won't really be seen for many years to come Apparently and it might be propaganda, but in the States wherever they banned smoking, the bars anticipated huge drops in revenue, but it had the absolute opposite affect and revenue actually increased. It may attract a different client base. I'm a smoker and definitely all for it and if anyone disagrees with me, I'm going to throw petrol bombs at them to express my feelings.
I'd prefer a choice like, but we live in a democracy and the people we voted in have ruled that smoking should be banned. To be fair, a good deal of the electorate were right behind that ban. Such is life. I can't really think of a good enough argument as to why it shouldn't be banned, other than freedom of choice, and in this instance that seems a bit flimsy. Maybe it'll help me stop smoking. Wonder if I'll be this diplomatic when the ban comes in and I'm out in the ******* rain smoking a ciggy.
Strangely, I'm in favour to a point but do think that there will be a knock on effect. It will reduce cigarette sales without doubt. I smoke but probably get through no more than ten a day under normal circumstances, but if I'm in the pub for an evening I will easily see off a packet of twenty. Tax wise I'll be paying quite a bit less than if I'm able to smoke in the pub, how does that get replaced by old Greedy Guts ? I'd like to propose two new forms of tax, one for gays and another one for gays - a loving tax if you will
RE: I'd prefer a choice like, but That was diplomatic Jay. I totally understand why people are opposed to it, but like you say it's difficult to put a reasonable argument against it. Some bloke from the 'pro smoking group'? was on the radio this morning. Basically he sounded like a tit. "we're not beaten....we'll smoke em on the beaches....we'll smoke em in the fields......" I may have made the quote up.
I regularly smoke up to about 15 a day and I'm not happy about it. I blame the gays as well. As you rightly point out though they will have to take the money back from somewhere. Ironically, it'll be the non-smokers that notice the hit. I'm now laughing at the non smokers..
The gays smoke gentlemans anyway...... which are a cigarette made especially for the G.A.Y community.</p> I blame the Barstewards who smoke gentlemans as well.</p> I smoke normal cigs that have been taxed through the roof for a number of years and in all honesty I've been trying to stop for ages but keep going back. If this stops me from smoking then I salute you Mr Blair/Brown if not I will be asking you for a new cagoule and long johns!</p>
Ironically of course The Pro Smoking fella will still be allowed to 'smoke em' on the beaches and the fields. Its smoking them in his Private Members Club, Golf Club and Local that will be the problem. Im my experience, women who wear black leggings with applegrabber pants underneath, will generally have a stinky fanny
I wonder If this will have as big an effect on tax income for the government as when the European borders were opened to allow an individual to bring in as many cigs or as much bacca as he or she liked. There is a limit, but it's huge. People go on holiday and bring back enough of the stuff for the rest of the year. Even more buy loads on the black market.
RE: NHS savings won't really be seen for many years to come I went to NY just after the ban was introduced and it was noticeable seeing people stood outside bars and they had bins with sand in for them to stub out the cigs. Last year when I went I didn't see anyone stood outside a bar smoking and the bins had gone. Seemed that either it was a different clientele or, more likely, people had got used to not have a cig. Oh and the bars were as busy as before the ban.
Based on this thread mind......... It's all the cool people that smoke, and some of the brightest. There you go then Mr Bird from when I got caught at school in '85. It was big and it was clever. lovely person
