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  1. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Truss taking the lead in one of the early YouGov polls.

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    Loko the Tyke, Jul 21, 2022
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    I wish I'd put £100 on her at 5 to 1. Always said she would win it. Just couldn't find it in my conscience to bet on a Tory.
     
    John Peachy, Jul 21, 2022
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    Well of the starting contenders Only Patel and Braverman would have been worse in my opinon
    I dont think she is as competent as Johnson but will do as she is told by some key foreign backers - it will be a disaster for the country for the next 2.5 years - probably get Labour or at least a Labour/Lib coalition then but the mess they have to sort out will not be a one parliament fix
    For what its worth I think Sunak would be the least bad of the 2 but he has no chance as he is seen as being one behind the run to get Johnson out which never goes down well with the tories, and he is the wrong colour for most of the voters
     
    Farnham_Red, Jul 21, 2022
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    I’m probably one of the biggest remainers on this board and I still think it was a disaster to leave the EU, but from our current position I wouldn’t rejoin. I would however look for a trade agreement with the EU that is advantageous to everyone. The anti Europe propaganda that we have been getting from people like the ERG is damaging to trade even though it makes money for Reece-Mogg. Leaving the EU has been expensive and clearly the federal system wasn’t approved by everyone but our governments blatantly anti Europe stance has been unhelpful.
     
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    Yep, agreed.
     
    John Peachy, Jul 21, 2022
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    Both cnuts.
     
    Hooky feller, Jul 21, 2022
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    The worst candidate by far was Badenoch and sadly I fully expect her to be elevated into a higher cabinet role.

    Truss is dangerous because she’s an idiot. Sunak is dangerous because he’s a slicker version of a populist with no real ideology.

    I’ll be slightly interested to see if the racists can get over themselves and elect Sunak as Truss collapses into word salads as the scrutiny increases.
     
    DannyWilsonLovechild, Jul 21, 2022
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  8. Farnham_Red

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    This is spot on
     
    Farnham_Red, Jul 21, 2022
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    Loved the bit where she just waited for her applause after her pork comment, bravo...
     
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    I agree with all of that. The triumph of the ERG was to make sufficient numbers of people think that the EU structure was something that was being done to us, rather than something that we were a part of (and an influential part at that). But there can be no guarantee that a referendum on rejoining now would produce a different outcome. What it would do would be to generate another 3-4 years of division and distraction from the many domestic and international problems we face. I agree therefore that the way forward is for a future Labour administration to quietly go about the task of repairing relationships and slowly rebuilding sector by sector agreements with EU countries which will hopefully overcome the impediments to trade which brexit was always going to initiate. I think this has, for now, to be done outside the SM/CU because either of those options would involve the same rancorous debates about rule-following, et cetera.

    This is largely the stance now taken by Sir Keir Starmer, who I know is not everyone's cup of tea on here. But for those with enough objectivity, I'd strongly recommend his interview on Alastair Campbell/Rory Stewart' podcast "The Rest Is Politics". You'll find a thoughtful, well-reasoned approach to Europe and Labour's GE prospects, even if you don't agree with him. Their most recent one, on the outcome of the final voting round in the Tory leadership contest is also well worth a listen. The combination of Stewart and Campbell in these podcasts is the best political commentary I've heard in years.
     
    orsenkaht, Jul 22, 2022
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    Going down well with th kids :)

     
    shenk1, Jul 22, 2022
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