The Dunning-Kruger Effect

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    The Dunning-Kruger effect is an interesting psychological phenomenon. In short, stupid people are too stupid to realise that they are stupid. They are unable to judge their own level of competence and are unable to accurately judge the skill of others. This extend to pretty much everything. An incompetent person does not realise quite how incompetent they are from everything from playing chess, to driving, to, for example, running a football club. They immediately assume their abilities to be above average because they lack the skills and clarity to comprehend how out of their depth they are. This leads them to make confident assertions regarding their abilities, with no real evidence to back it up. Just though people might find that interesting.
     
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    I read the book by Dunning -Kruger.It was called The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
     
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    like promoting people to their level of incompetence ?
     
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    Isn't that the Peter principle?
     
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    The Peter Principle is promoting people above their level of competence based purely on their ability in their current role and not their ability to take on the new role.
     
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    Like 'fools rush in'?
     
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    There is also another side to it where competent people often underestimate their own ability or knowledge - they know how much they don't know therefore downgrade their own perception of their abilities.
     
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    As someone who runs their own business, all these theories are absolute ********. I would point out I do have a degree in management studies from Leeds Uni, A Banking Diploma from Sheffield & an MA from London School of Economics, so I'm better qualified to say it is all a load of ****. Obviously there are key concepts & principles that are vital, but you can learn most of them on Barnsley Market. The way these things are labelled are nearly as bad as music has been labelled in recent times. Coldplay are indie? I rest my case.
     
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    "True wisdom is knowing what you don't know." Or something like that.

    Sent from my SM-J510FN using Tapatalk
     
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    I remember once trying to discuss the Dunning-Kruger principle with a bloke who wanted to open the batting, whereas I thought he was particularly suited to number 11. I decided the best policy was to let him open the batting anyway, which was a convenient way of bypassing the Dunning-Kruger principle. After a golden duck he batted at 11 the next week.
     
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    The only workplace philosophy I follow:

    "the management reserve the right to dip it's head in a bucket of *****'.
     
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    Incompetence. Can't you get special pants for that?
     
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    Knowing very little and admitting it is better than not admitting it and making a fool of yourself like Trump.
     
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    Is this a satire?
     
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    I used to have that but then I realised I am actually perfectly good at doing my job.
     
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    It's a little more than that - these people are so confident in their ability that people who actually are competent and correct begin to doubt their own ability.

    See Flicker/Hill for references...
     
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    I'm guessing this applies to posters who start threads that turn out to be 3+ pages long. Arguing against them is like hitting your head against a brick wall, so I don't bother even reading them any more.
     
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    There was a bloke who used to work at our place who was nicknamed 'Bungalow' . He couldn't work out why.
     
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