The January Three

See Hourihane, Bree and Winnall all started on the bench today. Still they can always count their money when they get home I suppose.

 

Bit petty when we've won

 

Raises a fantastic point.

 

Yes, they are irrelevant to us now and we have actually won our own match today. Or did I imagine that!

 

Only Hourihane I would say is a first teamer in the team he has moved to.

If you were offered quadrupled wages, you'd take a few splinters sat on the bench I guess. I would.

The system is fecked. We can do better writing contracts to get better renumeration for players leaving, but they will leave.

Truth is we have played with a weakened squad today against a team with a budget that dwarfs ours & have come out winners.

Still a lot of questions for next season, but let's enjoy this one.

 

Will they look back to this point in their careers and have Footballing regrets? I think there's a strong possibility (With exception of Bree due to his age) Personally I think Winnalls outburst/celebration last week was actually a display of said footballing regret. He has realised very early on in his new employment that it will not be possible for him to recreate the level of form that he showed for us. He will never be the same footballer again and that is a fact. It all came flooding out last Saturday, hilariously in a Drama Queen fashion.

If Villa have a poor start next season and Bruce gets the tin-tack then who knows. Lee Johnson could even end up there and play Houriane at left back.

Still, taking home abart 12 grand a week instead of 6 grand will make all the difference, won't it ?

 

It's an irrelevant one

 

Pint of bitter, eh lad..?

 

No but I'll have a pint of Kronenburg or Carlsberg Export if your offering. Tahh very much

 

I can wholeheartedly understand feelings towards Winnall; his attitude towards the end of his Barnsley career, signing for the piggies, and most of all announcing it (basically anyway, due to his agent and his "mates" on Rimmo's funeral. But as for Hourihane I don't have one bad word to say against the man. Humble and a brilliant servant. Set himself & his family & future up for life and speaks very fondly of us. As for Bree, it's hard to knock the kid when a club like Villa come calling with £££'s!

 

I'm not bothered who comments back negatively towards me but for the few people in the world who have the talent to be a professional sports person it should be more about personal and team achievement than money. The January 3 all left for money not betterment of their careers staying and pushing bfc in to the play offs would be a far greater career achievement than playing mid table for villa or sat on Wednesdays bench. If they had stayed until the summer they would still have got their big money/club moves and could have left properly rather than leaving without the commitment of seeing the job and the season through. Lifes not all about money some things like pride, family, friends,colleagues, community and decency are more important.

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Probably, yes.

 

It makes you wonder whether we will ever get the opportunity to make a serious promotion bid in this division. Every time we are up there among the play off contenders, someone's head at the club will be turned by an offer in January, irrespective of the contract situation. The transfer market is too fluid these days and I think there needs to be some restrictions.

 

Winnall didnt do anything unusual really, he was given the chance of more money and the chance of promotion to the Prem with another team (the Fowls).
Its like when Danny Wilson left us for them, how many of us would have stayed loyal or taken the bigger payment option at the time ?

 

I agree. I think the window should be open from the end of the season until the start of the next season. Once we kick off the new campaign, that's that. The squad you start with is the one you finish with.

Will never happen though, because money.

I knew it beforehand, but this year I've had the view confirmed really, just how much this game revolves around coins.

 

Would be more of a level playing field, at least then teams with tiny budget in comparison could actually have a full season at it, but as you say it won't happen.

Anyway, that sickly build up that Sky do for January deadline, I'd proper miss that.

 

When I wrote the original message in this thread, I had no other motive than saying look, they are not playing. They were all on the bench in midweek as well. The point is I suppose that to us Barnsley fans, they were all outstanding players, players that we regarded as being an important part of our team. But to their new teams, they are nothing special. Their new teams have lots of players with equal if not greater talent. Their new teams use their wallets to suck in that talent, churn it through the system, try it, test it, and spit it out again. That is what you do if you have loads of cash and little patience. You put lots of players through the washing machine, see who comes out the cleanest and stick with them. It is a different world, and a world that Barnsley FC cannot possibly compete in. We have to have a different business plan because we just do not have the financial resources to compete with teams using that plan.

So, taking Hourihane as an example. Barnsley FC took a raw young player from Plymouth, an player with talent, but a player with faults as well. A player who was good on dead ball situations, but a player who lacked pace and who could be pulled out of position defensively. A player whose game was more suited to play in a midfield 5, and converted him to be a player who had the discipline and positional sense to play in a midfield 4. We were able to do this because we were patient and tolerant of his errors. We recognised his talent and were confident that we could coach out of his game the mistakes. The change did not happen overnight, but eventually the penny dropped. Hourihane became a better player because he understood his own strengths and weaknesses better and took on board the coping strategies that he had been taught to take greatest advantage of his strengths, and cover over the cracks that still existed. We built our organisation and structure around him. Our team shape was designed to take advantage of his strengths and to cover his weaknesses. The team became stronger because the players knew and understood the principles that the team was built around. But nevertheless, the team was a team, because it was built to take advantage of individual player strengths and to cover individual player weaknesses. The team was better than the players that made up the team. It won because of the organisation and structure rather than because it had the best players.

So what happens when you take players out of that protective environment, that team, that web of support. What happens when you put players in a new environment, one where the talent is perhaps a step up on the level that they are used to. An environment where they are not the centre of things and where the team has not been built around them and their special talents and special faults. Well, they are exposed. No longer are either team mates chosen to cover for their faults, or to support their special talents. They are expected to be the finished product. They are expected to be able to do it all, to hold their own in a team with players who are a lot more talented than they are used to. Of course, players have huge egos. It goes with the territory. They think that they are as good as any other player. But the fact is that they are not. There is a saying in the business world that a person is promoted until he reaches a position which is just beyond his ability, and that is where he says. In the football world it is different because your skills are part of a machine, and the functioning of the machine is all. But if your skills do not fit the machine, and your skills are not regarded as special enough to build a new machine around you, then there is less tolerance of failure. Connor Hourihane is at a crossroads of his career. Has he reached his zenith? Time will tell. Was he right to move on? Of course he was, because if he had not tried, he would have never known. It is the equivalent of that business saying. You test yourself and your footballing talent until you fail the test, because then you know for sure.

 

I have changed to the "Red" version but prefer the spooky banner images--how do i change back please?

 

That's true but the current transfer window system is rubbish. Clubs should have the freedom to do their business whenever they want. They shouldn't be any windows or at least it should go back to how it used to be where it shut about a month before the season ended.

 

Just go back to the bottom fatalbert and do it again but this time select the other version. Do not select the default option