Scabs until they die

one word on scargill,he did not start the strike,we did at cortonwood colliery along with men from bullcliffe wood,scargill had absolutely nothing to do with it,he wasnt even at the yorkshire headquaters when we went on monday 5th march to ask for support from other pits as per the vote in favour of strike action 18 months previous,cortonwood threatened closure was the first time the vote needed using.

 

Tha talking facts nar dek n some on em el hate thi forrit .
They like to call Scargill all names under sun while they're snacking thersens off .

 

some seem to forget that scargill came to an agreement with Mcgregor to end the strike on amicable terms and it was thatcher who stopped it,the unions and their employers had actually reached agreement

 

Marlon - I like you and respect you as one of my favourite posters on the BBS - honestly. You are funny, witty, honest and come across as sincere.

My Dad worked at Woolley as a shot firer (sadly died a few years ago). One uncle was a Personnel Manager at Barnsley Main. Another uncle was an electrician at Woolley. Both uncles were affected by the strike and the latter left to work in Scarborough. Both are still alive. Both moved on with their lives.

I worked for a charity for 17 years, becoming a director, until a new CEO was appointed who took a dislike to me and got rid of me. I moved on and now run my own business. Best thing I ever did.

My point is - by all means remember but don't let the hatred eat you up. It's not worth it. I did for a few years and they were wasted years of my life. I'm sure the scab thing is a bi- annual event for you and the rest of the year you are fine. Perspective needed at the match and always.

Cheers Marlon.

 

A review procedure had been agreed ... the government ignored it at Cortonwood

 

Thick as pig ****.

 

Cheers for that cambs ,that's really appreciated and humbling.
Tbh it don't eat me up as I know I'm better than any of those that went to work in notts,.it's mainly football chanting reasons I do it now ,last season on New year's Day I think it was we were winning 1-0 With a late Hourihane goal and the Forrest fans who had been waving notes at us and we're singing you'll never work again etc were as quiet as mice and all you could hear reverberating around the ground was scabs untill you die as loud and proud as you could imagine, they certainly knew the Barnsley were in town .

 

I've been called worse

 

Very very emotive subject. Lot of my mates were on the picket lines at Hatfield Main.
A couple were coppers who due to the treatment meted out by soldiers in police uniforms on picket lines
and elsewhere resigned from the force.
I was a part time Youth Worker in Harworth a mining village 8 miles from Worksop and 10 miles from Donny.

Harworth pit was in the Nottinghamshire coalfield.
Some of the members Dads remained on strike and towards the end, some went back. One was the Leader
in Charge of the Club. As they paid their subs some of the kids who's Dads were still on strike and were 12-16 year old said " here you are Scab" as he took their money. I left to work for Doncaster Youth Service shortly after.

It was a terrible time for everyone involved. Thirty three years on, if you were to mention Nottingham
miners in the village I grew up in near Hatfield, you would be guaranteed a very hostile response.

Up to 2015, I worked with a couple of Forest fans. One lives in Sheffield the other in Rotherham.
One will be at Oakwell tonight. The lad from Sheffield was born in Nottingham and was 2 when
the strike took place and the lad who was born in Rotherham started supporting them during the Clough era and
is Yorkshire born and bred and has absolutely no connection with mining.

When they knew I supported the Reds and we discussed the scab chants at Reds v Forest games, they said they had
every sympathy with anyone who suffered hardship in '84 and beyond but as loyal Forest football fans they said they didn't feel any personal responsibility for what happened all those many years ago but understood the position of the Yorkshire
miners and their families.

I would think that quite a few of their fans there tonight might feel the same and will not understand why people who were Yorkshire miners or were related or friendly with Yorkshire miners , still feel a burning hatred towards the convicted fraudster Greatrex and his cohorts. Only good thing is that the former UDM leader is now reviled just as much in Nottinghamshire
as he still is in Yorkshire.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...reatrex-jailed-for-charity-theft-7684713.html

 

This with big brass knobs on.

 

I know of a bloke who goes to Oakwell who regularly wears one of these

I'm curious as to whether anyone else has seen one

 

My kids have one each they wore em to the Durham Miners Gala.

 

Understood, mate.

 

the strike was initiated by the tories for two reasons,one was for revenge for the miners victories in the 72 and 74 strikes and the other was to smash the unions.

the scabs in notts and leicester in particular chose to ignore warnings by their own union and chose instead to side with the government after promises of no pit closures and indeed prospects of highly paid work at new projects like asfordby,they were paid highly to work while others were fighting for the just cause,it was nothing to do with looking after their families it was simply **** you i'm alright jack...these basterds were a disgrace to their fellow mates and indeed to themselves and their own families as their kids and grandkids are left with poorly paid service jobs instead of well paid mining jobs

uk mines were highly profitable,its absolute ****** to say otherwise,yes some wernt but the majority were and the agreement at nationalisation was to break even and keep a secure energy source.Thatcher and co threw this lot straight in the gutter,it will be donkeys years before the true cost is found out as to what it cost to shut the industry down but this country is in a worse state without it.

coal is the cheapest form of energy production and if i hear its a dirty fuel one more time i'll strangle somebody,the technology is there to burn it cleanly with practically zero emmisions.

 

Sad.

The Germans did way more damage and yet.....

Get a life.

 

Wtf

 

Still not forgiven them for 1926 strike never mind the 1984/85 one!

 

As much as I hate Rod Liddle he wrote an interesting article about football being divided now between the "somewhere people" and the "anywhere people" - - there are those who feel a profound allegiance to their hometown, who are rooted there almost to the degree that if defines them - "somewhere people", and those who feel no such allegiance - "anywhere people". The point of football was to share with your friends a pride in the area in which you grew up and which you still belong and which your football team represent, no matter how useless they might be. And sure, to exhibit a brief laconic loathing of the area from which your opponents hail. These days football and some of its followers don't want much to do with the "somewhere's" with their embarrassing chants - carrying baggage that is despised by not only our liberal elite, who wish us all to be eternally transient and to posses no allegiance to any town or city but by big money which thinks the same for financial reasons. so gradually the country becomes an homogenous mass without our sense of place and an allegiance for where we come from.
Like I say, Liddle is a prat, but I think he's kind of on to something here.

 

I'll assume you're joking as it's a perfectly reasonable thing to say. I suppose we should remind any Germans visiting the country about the second world war as well.

 

just like they are doing to the NHS