Points to survive?

The benchmark is generally 50. We needed 5 more to pip Peterborough a few years back, last season 51 points wasn’t enough for Blackburn, the two seasons prior to that though, only 41 and 42 would have been needed based on third bottom’s tallies of 40 and 41.

Looking at our current average points per game, we’d hit 44. Seems low - but do we expect Burton, Sunderland, Birmingham, Bolton to improve much? At the current ppg third bottom would have only 35!

I don’t think it’ll be that low but I’ve a feeling 50 points won’t necessarily be required.

 

I think that Burton and Bolton will continue to struggle, but Sunderland and Birmingham are already showing flickers of improvement under new management. But the biggest problem is that the way we are playing at the moment, you struggle to see us gaining another 15 points, let alone 30 that might see us safe. We need changes in January, because the evidence at present strongly suggests this squad isn't good enough.

 

Sunderland and Birmingham are very likely to strengthen in January. I sense we won't be doing that or certainly not bringing anyone proven in.

 

How on earth can Hecky plan for January with all this uncertainty? 2nd division clubs are run better than we are.

 

Bolton and Burton will continue to struggle along with us. Sunderland and Birmingham will both recover so I’d say we have to look to finish above Millwall who are the weakest team I’ve seen this season. So still early 50s for survival. I can’t see us doing it.

 

I expect us to improve in January.

As things are hecky keeps chopping and changing to freshen things up but with little or no success because there is little variety.

Players come on as subs and look half decent, but when given a start they aren't having the same effect. Hedges is a prime example, and by virtue of that, I don't think we can get any worse.

January can't weaken us because we're now so poor. We can either stay the same or improve.

 

Moncur another looks alreet for 15-20 mins but crap when he gets a start.

 

46 points is the average over the last 10 seasons. This is taken from before the Derby game so we’ve slipped below the relegation line now.

 

How do you know how well the business is run

 

Only lost 1 in 8 before current run . Looks like any 3 fom 5 or 6 I would take 47 points and hope it would be enough. Hecky needs some backing in January cant keep marking time every season only one outcome in the en.

 

Bit confused by that one. We are a 2nd division club aren't we?

If by 2nd division he means league two, then I'd like to know which ones, and also if they're so well run, how come they're where they are and were where we are?

 

Huddersfield tyke is clearly an accomplished BA with.access to each football clubs documented business processes

 

ill say it again if hecky wasn't from town or hadn't played before or hadn't gon to Wembley twice he wouldn't be at the club. seams like sentiment is ruling over common sence
His results and performances over the past 18 months in the championship are appaling (getting to Wembley twice and promotion was outstanding but when the chips are down there is no room for sentiment.I keep hearingthat he didn't sign thease players .That's rubbish,No body tells me he didn't have input, I know that we haven't got bundles of cash but we had money through the door last season.This squad just isn't good enough to progress in the championship Changes need to be made now in all aspects of the team and management. and further more if we get investment in our team or club ill show my arse on the town hall steps

 

I would agree that the championship results at home have been largely rubbish, but 9 wins away from home last season is some going.

 

If LJ wasn't sacked for his run in league one then surely Hecky shouldn't be for one in a higher league with a even more inexperienced team?

 

Who would do a better job in the circumstances who would accept the job and the burdens he’d have to work with?

I’ll chance my arm and say absolutely nobody. Your thoughts?

 

I couldn't do worse we are staring relegation in the face

 

And in one instant any credibility your post had, which was little anyway, has gone

Maybe.

But having had all the players sold that had any value, and having them replaced with cheap alternatives from lower leagues and with little experience, none of which at this level; selected for him from a statistical analysing spreadsheet (yes he might have had a choice between one or two but they weren’t offering much were they?), what exactly was a realistic expectation?

I ask again. With those constraints, which professional football manager do you think would have done any better than have us 4 points above the relegation zone after 21 games? And would he have done it for the league one/two salary Hecky gets and the restrictions in place? Until he signs this new deal I would think Hecky will be the lowest paid manager in this division, with probably half of league one paying more. So who’s better who’d want it?

Given your answer before was yourself, I assume you have no suggestion.