Why Did Mr Cryne destroy this team last January?

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  1. red

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    It's not possible for a club like us getting 11/12k home fans to give players 18k and 28k a week on 3 year deals. We wouldn' have a club to support in 5 years time if we did. Leeds highest paid player at the start of the season was chris wood on 18k I'm just been realistic.
     
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    Except they would have gone in June anyway, same as Watkins and Scowen.
     
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    They would have gone in the summer for free so no they wouldn't. This post is irrelevant I can accept people saying we shouldn't have sold in Jan and gambled for promotion but they would have gone for free in the summer we didn' force them to go. Winnall engineered the move.
     
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    players demanding more money and the club not able to pay it,its s simple as that,easy in hindsight to say we should have got them tied down in the early days but ffs how many players have come through this club on longer contracts and been fcukin sh!te..
     
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    I presumed get were saying If they were still here as in now.
     
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    You seem to be ignoring what I'm saying. I've given you some examples of how we'd have increased revenue and reduced losses to cover their cost, but it doesn't matter now anyway, it's done and dusted.
    A whole year of dross football later and here we are, books balanced, sold to a new organisation. Let's hope they have the balls and financial clout to be a little more far sighted and we hang onto our future crown jewels a little longer.
     
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    I don't think Conor went for just money reasons he could be at oakwell playing in ront of 14k or villa in ront of 30k one of the country's most successful teams. To keep Conor and match the 28k a week would cost 4.4 million over 3 years on one player. Then winnall would cost 2.8 million over 3 years so that's over 7 million on wages on just 2 players then the rest of the squad want their wages increasing. We would be bankrupt unless we got promoted there for gambling the club's future for short term success.
     
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    Hopefully we can avoid relegation so we can move on from the events of January 2017 with help from our new owners.
    But yes, i personally will always look back and think "what if" when reminising of that great team.
     
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    Would the new owners have been as interested in BFC if the transfers hadn't gone through? Would the balance sheet have been quite as impressive? They talked about BFC being "Too good to be true" in the press conference. Sometime you have to take a step back to take two steps forward.

    Patrick has only ever done what he thought was best for BFC. In this case, he took into account the future financial stability of the club and acted with those best interests. He hasn't ever gambled the future of the club which is one reason why so many fans of our respect him.
     
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    I get all of that gally, I have the utmost respect for what Mr Cryne has done for the club and I've no doubt that the balancing of the books was to make us a more saleable assett. I guess it was a less riskier way of doing so than keeping those players and having a punt at the play offs and gaining the benefits that would have reaped.

    However having sat through the dross of seeing that squad grow and develop, then seeing it flourish for 12 months, before seeing it being ripped apart, I'm finding this new development period, very hard to stomach and wouldnt berate anyone who chose to have a sabbatical from it.
     
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    'Nobody wants to ask' ... Are you for real? There must be 4,000 threads on this topic.
     
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    Here it is in simple words...
    We could not afford to pay all our players 20k per week.

    If we had taken that route we would in all likelihood be still in the Championship with money haemorhageing from the club and the Lee consortium and every other cconsortium not prepared to touch us with a bargepole.
     
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    Im not a regular on here Cambs, and I still thought this was summat that fans didnt want to really ask about.
     
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    I don't think it would have been a 'gamble' to construct player contracts better than what they did.
    As part of the process it should have crossed the directors minds that - what if this team does well in their first year in the Championship?
    And if they do well - then all their contracts run out the following summer - so should we give them a new type of contract that reflects what happens on the pitch?
    Surely something could have been concocted which also safeguarded the club if the players failed to live up to Championship football.
     
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    You’ll fit in on here
     
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    As people have pointed out, the players would have been gone by now anyway. In fact you could ask why we kept watkins when half a million was on offer.

    However they would have left for more had the been given new contracts when we went up. On this regard Mr Cryne actually cost himself money as it was he who benefited from the player sales so I'm sure he realised what he got wrong. The club and the plan need to change moving forward for this reason.

    Having lost the players i honestly think bradshaw is scoring as many of more than winnall would. In fact he has scored more than winnall this season despite having a less creative team behind him whereas winnall plays for a top of the table team.

    Id happily take jackson, pinnock and lindsay over roberts at the monent as well: all three look to have massive potential.

    The real loss and 12 months later still is conor. We have no line for like replacement and none in sight. We have signed so many attacking midfielders but none can fill that gap.
     
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    You say We have no like for like replacement for Connor but he wasn’t the finished article when he came by a long way. So in that context we may or may not have a like for like replacement just potential as was Connor. We couldn’t afford a finished Connor and neither could a lot of teams as Wendy found out when they inquired
     
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    We have nobody who has the potential Hourihane had when he signed though.

    He was a liability in a midfield two at first, he had to play in front of two others otherwise we were soft as grease through the middle. But he didn’t half have ability, an eye for goal and the best set piece delivery since Barnard, maybe better.

    He was coached into a fantastic, hardworking, creative central midfield player. Complete package. None of our current squad show the same raw ingredients I don’t think.
     
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    No but then I didn't say that it was. I was talking about the decisions made in January. From what I understand, we've learnt from that particular mistake.
     
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    From what I've seen of Mallan on YouTube, a lot of his raw attributes are very similar to Hourihane's. I really hope that we can develop him in the same way.
     

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