Seems the team are getting together to sort tactics out.

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by jax2, Mar 25, 2018.

  1. S.M.

    S.M. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    9,462
    Likes Received:
    441
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    If there was anyone else within the coaching set up I'd say give them a chance, Hassell as far as I can tell is the most senior, which in itself says a lot, but he'd likely place emphasis on clean sheet and battling for points, his playing style and general demeanor indicates as much, he'd also know the importance of connecting with the fans and he's been in a fair few relegation battles as a player..

    Enough?
     
  2. DusThaNoIII

    DusThaNoIII Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,996
    Likes Received:
    3,069
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Leeds
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Barnsleys andy Tate. Give it hasseh til end o season.
     
    MappRed and Mateo Corbo like this.
  3. Redstone

    Redstone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2005
    Messages:
    15,948
    Likes Received:
    11,389
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    The current management team could be awful or great. I don't think we can work that out based on the awful squad we have.
     
    ubique_tyke likes this.
  4. DusThaNoIII

    DusThaNoIII Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,996
    Likes Received:
    3,069
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Leeds
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    You’ve got a absolutely no idea what his ethos as a coach would be. Do you think morais’ emphasis isn’t on clean sheets and points? Do you think he says “here lads concede a few embarrassing goals and whatever you do do not get any points”?
    Playing style has little to no impact on coaching style. Lots of world class players completely humiliate themselves as managers - the Nevilles for example.
    The problem isn’t the tactics it’s the players. No amount of bobby hassell saying “don’t let sloppy goals in” will make them instantly capable of doing that.
     
  5. Mat

    Mateo Corbo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2014
    Messages:
    2,981
    Likes Received:
    2,399
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Not really no.
     
  6. Redstone

    Redstone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2005
    Messages:
    15,948
    Likes Received:
    11,389
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    This is the thing isn't it. No amount of coaching will make players better than they are able. Some may still improve over time, but many may never be championship standard.

    I am a decent snooker player, I can make 30 40 breaks fairly regularly. Now if I were to be coached by Stephen Hendry and Ronnie O'Sullivan I would probably improve. But I doubt I would ever be able to get anything close to a professional standard. Coaching has it's limits.
    Pep Guardiola has improved Raheem Sterlings game no end, but the lad obviously had potential and ability. He looked at Joe Hart and thought I can't make him good enough so he moved him on.
     
    Kettlewell and DusThaNoIII like this.
  7. Sco

    Scoff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    8,947
    Likes Received:
    7,622
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The interface between business and technology
    Location:
    Brampton by the Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Or thought Hart was too old and wanted a younger player in that position who could play for the next 5-10 years?
     
  8. DusThaNoIII

    DusThaNoIII Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,996
    Likes Received:
    3,069
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Leeds
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    He was 29.. Edwin Van der Sar left Man United at 40 as one of the best ever premier league keepers. Same age as David Seaman left Arsenal.

    In fact the man he brought in with the intention of replacing him Bravo (regardless of how that worked out) is 34. What a ridiculous post.
     
    Redstone likes this.
  9. Redstone

    Redstone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2005
    Messages:
    15,948
    Likes Received:
    11,389
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    This is basically what I was going say.

     
    DusThaNoIII likes this.
  10. Tyk

    Tyketical Masterstroke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2011
    Messages:
    9,322
    Likes Received:
    12,362
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Dry buumer
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Nope, I'm pretty sure it's because he's w.ank
     
    Redstar, Fonzie and Redstone like this.
  11. Fon

    Fonzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2012
    Messages:
    8,829
    Likes Received:
    15,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    That's a fair assessment that's been lost in a sea of Joe Hart and his shithousery.

    Our squad is currently "better" than it was under Hecky, yet were closer to the relegation spots than we ever were under his leadership.

    I hate Paul for what he did, but I'm pretty sure that we wouldn't be in the position we are now if he was still here.
     
    Django likes this.
  12. Redstone

    Redstone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2005
    Messages:
    15,948
    Likes Received:
    11,389
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    We'll never know but I don't think we would be any worse off at any rate.
     
  13. Redstar

    Redstar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    26,953
    Likes Received:
    2,050
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Fidel's Bedside
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    We will never know because he’s a ******* coward
     
  14. East7

    East7 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2017
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    46
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Here’s a hard bloody truth.

    We are not good enough. Been same with two managers now. Hammil was given automatic starts by trading on past glories despite 0 goals and 0 assists this year. Play 4-4-2 and ‘the best players’ is what we did for every losing game between November and February.

    If you want to sack the manager and replace him with Hassell, I’m afraid you are completely naive.
     
  15. MappRed

    MappRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2017
    Messages:
    1,817
    Likes Received:
    1,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Excellent post.

    This is the same Hassell that doesn’t do that much, if any, coaching as far as I’m aware. His name is being banded around as an alternative to Morais simply because he’s a club legend and nothing more.
     
  16. Redstone

    Redstone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2005
    Messages:
    15,948
    Likes Received:
    11,389
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    This is it, Hammill may well be worth a place in our best 11. Certainly was up to Christmas for me, and that's the problem. He is/was one of our better players and he has been terrible. Our best 11 is poor, the starters are poor and so are the replacements. We have played 442 451 532 433. We have tried endless different team selections. And for all that we have looked terrible all season long. Even in games where we have more of the ball we rarely look like scoring. We are about 8 or 9 players short of a good squad.
     
  17. Fon

    Fonzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2012
    Messages:
    8,829
    Likes Received:
    15,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Adam Hammill has 0 assists because every cross he put into the box was aimed at Tom Bradshaw - who was being marked by 3 giants.

    If he had McBurnie and Moore to aim at, id wager it would be more. Not many more like, but more.
     
    Duntpasstome and Connor like this.
  18. Sup

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2005
    Messages:
    54,454
    Likes Received:
    28,303
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Adam hammill has 3 assists
     
    Stahlrost, Redstone and Connor like this.
  19. Sup

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2005
    Messages:
    54,454
    Likes Received:
    28,303
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)

     
    Exile and Connor like this.
  20. Fon

    Fonzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2012
    Messages:
    8,829
    Likes Received:
    15,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Good. Thought he had zero as that's what's been banded about on here. That's the similar to Thiam then who's had probably similar game time, but who's played with Moore and McBurnie.
     
    Redstone likes this.

Share This Page