James Cryne

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  1. pon

    pontyender Well-Known Member

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    20% shareholder. (Cryne family) and a director.
     
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    So none ?
     
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    I know that. How much does it translate into "involvement" though.
     
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    I've heard differing levels of responsibility, but he's a director so I would imagine he has input.
     
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    Interesting that he claims he "DESIGNED a player evaluation system for footballers in Divisions 1 and 2 of the Football League and the Conference" rather than that he simply took a passing interest in looking at the spreadsheet we were using.
     
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    Mischievous
     
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    You know for a fact he didn't design a 'player evaluation system' then?
     
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    That’s not what he is saying....
     
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    I think it's a reference to us being told young Mr Crynes involvement was not so big.
     
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    If the Nice model is being followed, perhaps more than is realised?
     
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    It was, although I have just found an old fan meeting from 3 years ago in which Patrick admitted that James built the algorithm. Surprised if missed that to be honest, I was always under the impression that Patrick always claimed James just took an interest in looking at the stats rather than that e had built the whole system.
     
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    Not a clue
     
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    Just imagine. Danny Wilson's interview with Patrick and the board."Now then Danny don't you worry about bringing players in we've got a bloke who does that for you".Who is it does he know owt about football."No but he's good at maths" Sorry Patrick i'm not going to ruin my reputation for a young in who's good at sums.
     
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    The Plan ️ wasn’t fully realised then so it was still used as just part of the recruitment strategy
     
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    I understand but Patrick said at the meeting that James was a mathematician and he enjoyed using figures.He also said that managers like Danny Wilson wouldn't work under those conditions.I would imagine every club in football have people who use input for things like lung capacity,bleep test speed and stamina etc.I would be amazed and shocked if James Cryne had ever had any input in picking a signing for any manager.
     
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    Best quote from this season of Billions, when skepticism is expressed about the use of "quants" i.e maths models to get ahead of the stock market - "Billy Beane never won a World Series"
    Taylor, who's trying to bring it in says:
    "Billy Beane never won the world series, But Theo Epstein did, using all the same strategies. Be Theo Epstein instead."
     
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    Well you SHOULD be VERY shocked then !!!
     
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    The trouble with "statistics" and football is - they are incompatible
     
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