It's a shame as he would have been good for us. We'd struggle to compete with Ipswich even if we'd stayed up, so was never going to pip them after a relegation. Plenty of negatives were posted about him yesterday on here, based on one game, which took Rotherham extra time to beat them. I thought he did well over 49 games to firstly push two clubs with much bigger budgets all the way and then to get them to Wembley.
I think he did well, too. Very well. I'm disappointed that it looks as though his future is elsewhere.
We’re going to end up with a right shithouse like Grant McCann as usual. We’re stood idle watching all the best young up and comers go and it makes my piss itch. Get ready for an unwanted and underwhelming appointment like normal FFS.
"Stood idle". Are you absolutely sure about that? Which "best up and comers" have we missed out on? Hurst and Ross possibly. That's hardly "all" of them.
Erm weren’t they apparently high on the board’s list? Yes they were but my point is that judging by the radio silence, it’ll be an underwhelming appointment like we’re accustomed to.
Does anyone seriously think that either of those names, given the choice of Sunderland, Ipswich or Barnsley, would place us anywhere other than third choice.
How do you actually know that they were high on the board's list? I've heard rumours that Hurst was, no idea if they were true or not, but anyway we're not really in a position to compete with Ipswich right now. As for Ross, I've heard absolutely zero to suggest we were interested in him this time around. Doesn't mean we weren't, but there's nothing concrete to say we were. As for the silence, how many clubs make announcements all through the interview process for a new manager, or broadcast the fact to the media they're about to make an approach for someone already employed before informing the other club, manager and agent? I'm pretty sure, using nothing more than a bit of common sense, that there's loads going on behind the scenes with the board doing their utmost to bring in a manager who they believe will get us back up at the first attempt. Or maybe you're right, they are doing absolutely nothing, and we'll be managerless until three days before the start of the season, when we we suddenly appoint Carlton Palmer as manager with Gazza and Kenny Sansom as his assistants, because nobody else applied and the board couldn't be arsed to try and get anyone better.
We were in a much better position to appoint a manager a few months ago but instead chose an unknown Portuguese bloke who was pals with Jose Mourinho. That appoint,Emi was a total **** up and it is impacting on us now. Paul Hurst would have been a great appointment I think. We may as well go for Grayson now. We have he players to suit hoofball with various midfielders feeding off Moore's knock downs
I still think that, given the financial clout of the current board, we ought to out-bid Ipswich. We couldn't have done it a while ago, but we could now. Managers often talk to more than one club and we need to match the wage and compensation. It won't affect players' wage structure, so go for it.
We still should have significant millions in the coffers from the £25million quid the club has made over the last 18months. So I’d still say the club is in an incredibly comfortable position to get a decent enough coach. With the additional money on its way from the sell on fee from Mawson as well.
What we are discovering is that the board really is not going to put a whole lot of money into the club despite the personal wealth of its members.
I think there are 3 things at play here... 1, we notoriously receive much less in transfer fees than has often been touted at the time. We though Stones had gone for around 3-3.5m, PC then confirmed the upfront fee was just 2.2m. Rumours of Bree and Hourihane going for around 7m combined... wouldn't be surprised if in time we find out it's much less. 2, we've spent a huge amount of money on failures and players yet to prove themselves. We paid fees for Moncur, Bradshaw, Moore, Kpekawa, Mallan, Pinnock, Knasmullner, McGeehan, Potts, Lindsay, Thiam (and others i've probably forgotten), plus wages, signing on fees and agent fees. That's not £20m... but when you tag on wages on top of that, it's not insignificant. 3. we've just been relegated which last time round was widely reported to have cost us £6m Take that into account and how stringent FFP is in the lower leagues, and I suspect a war chest is more like a piggy bank.
Out of those 3 points only the £6m loss is for definite due to fact that we are no longer a Championship club. The others are open to all sorts of interpretations. How much did we receive from Man City for John Stones’s England call-up, winning the Premiership, appearances and so forth. We don’t know the exact amounts we paid for any of those players or the details of the instalments for them. Stringent FInancial constraints will always be got around/manipulated as they always seem to be. I suppose opinions will depend on the glass half empty half full perspective as usual.
There are also fees for loans, and of course we don't know how much it cost us to pay off the contracts of all of the Portuguese coaching team when they were sacked en masse, maybe less, maybe more than what we got from Leeds. My point isn't about glasses and their fullness, just that the magic £25m that some suggest is burning a hole in our pockets most certainly won't be there in its entirety. And like you say, many transfers are actually paid over time, some taking 3-4 years to be paid in full.
Ideally, in my opinion, I’d like us to be astute and be more short-term thinking with our signings. If we sign Players who are good enough to get us out of this division and have to discard of them after, then so be it. Hopefully those type of signings won’t break the bank. Also, perhaps our owners will push the boat out when we are competing for signatures with clubs from the same division. Let’s see what August brings eh.
Regarding Hurst , in my eyes it was a non runner from the off , simply because of the pulling power of the championship as opposed to league one . If Shrewsbury had got promoted then he would have been in the championship with his club & because they fell at the final hurdle Ipswich jump in , the lads stock is high at the moment & if he has ambition he will not want to take a step backwards by coming to a league one club
