Philosophy and Football

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    Something to think about while waiting for that announcement.

    Yesterday evening I went to a philosophical discussion about football at the LSE. Two professors of Philosophy one from New York and one from Gloucester and a Professor of French from Durham Uni. Some good stuff and surprisingly entertaining it will be up on the LSE website and I will post a link when its available.

    There were a number of quotes which I liked and which I'm setting out below:

    the first is the most famous and is from Albert Camus - "All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football".

    One I hadn't heard before from Warren Fralegh - "Good sport is the sweet tension of uncertainty of outcome". (this made me think of Barnsley away games).

    From the Panel:

    "Fans are the living archives of football teams"

    "Football - the delusion of hope" (Barnsley away again)

    "The form of football is socialism but the content of football right now is money".

    Simon Critchley (the Professor from New York) has a book entitled "What we think about when we think about football". Worth a look I think. Here's a synopsis:

    "What do we think about when we think about football? Football is about so many things: memory, history, place, social class, gender (especially masculinity, but increasingly femininity too), family identity, tribal identity, national identity, the nature of groups. It is essentially collaborative, even socialist, yet it exists in a sump of greed, corruption, capitalism and autocracy.

    Philosopher Simon Critchley attempts to make sense of it all, and to establish a system of aesthetics - even poetics - to show what is beautiful in the beautiful game. He explores, too, how the experience of watching football opens a particular dimension in time; how its magic wards off oblivion; how its dramas play out national identity and non-identity; how we spectators, watching football with tragic pensiveness, participate in the play. And of course, as a football fan, he writes about his heroes and villains: about Zidane and Cruyff, Clough and Revie, Shankly and Klopp."

    Sorry for going on so long.
     
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    I watched that clip just before posting.
     

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