Lies, damn lies and statistics

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  1. Sup

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    The BBC have a story on their site heralding the huge pay rises that have outstripped inflation. Wages have risen a massive 2.9% in just three months which obviously means everyone is now earning a fortune and businesses are doing great because they can afford such big wage rises

    Or could it possibly be because the minimum wage went up and so many people are being paid the lowest their bosses can legally get away with that this small rise of 34p on such paltry wages is actually a big percentage and so skews the figures somewhat?
     
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    I havent had a pay rise in 3 years and neither has anyone else in my company - apart from those in France who have one by law
     
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    You could say a similar thing about the unemployment rate from the same article. The graph shows a lower percentage of people being unemployed. But meanwhile it doesn't tell you that a larger number than ever are on zero-hour contracts and have absolutely no certainty of having any income next week.
     
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    I had a pay rise this year in January (actually March but backdated). I won't see a penny more this year no matter what I do. I might get one next year...
     
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    You know that fantastic pay rise that NHS workers received earlier this year; the one the Unions backed and the Government made it seem that we would all now be quids in.....after we'd had a pay freeze (or 1% rise in some cases) for 7 years?

    Mine turned out to be 20p extra per hour. Not worked out what I'll spend it on yet, but I'll probably fritter it away on the increasing cost of my gas, electric, water, council tax, food, petrol and clothes.
     
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    NHS pay rises have been truly ridiculous. Years of nothing and then generously offering them still less than inflation. So effectively, they're making less and less year after year. Yet they are still expected to work more hours than most other jobs. I'm amazed there haven't been more strikes. Too many people working for the NHS are too good for this world and are really being taken advantage of.
     
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    Mine was a £16 per month increase. I don't know what to do with all this extra money. Might start burning tenners just for a laugh.
     
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    The BBC news I saw said it was 2.9% above inflation. It's lies not statistics.
     
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    I was made redundant in 2010 and I'm still not earning what I was on back then!
     
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    I'm in exactly the same boat mate. Working in the NHS for 22 years and I now get £29 p/m extra. Virgin have just upped my bill by £4 per month, so that's down to £25 per month straightaway. All the other increases on top of this and the remaining £25 will be gone soon too.
     
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    I've not had an above inflation pay rise in 10 years.
     
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    I can understand angst at not getting a payrise, whether significant or otherwise. However, I know plenty of people in small businesses, some of which I've worked closely with, who have taken huge pay cuts to ensure they could retain members of their workforce and in the most extreme cases, continue to operate. In some instances they are well below minimum wage. Yes, of course, when times are good and they are doing well, they can have huge rises. But it's often neglected that many small business owners sacrifice so much when times are bad.
     
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    I've somehow had a pay cut in the last year. Sort of anyway
     
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    Most public services have not had a pay rise in years.... except for MPs..
     

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