Paul heckingbottom article

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  1. fit

    fitzytyke2 Well-Known Member

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    Did Mowatt replace Hourihane? Thought it was Matty James?
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    He's here look. You're turning into the new I'm Spartacus.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    That probably makes it worse.

    Just a side point on James - is he injured again as he hasn't played since 3rd March.
     
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    I thought we did really well at Fleetwood to come back from a goal down to win. Especially off the back of the Coventry defeat and the events of the last home game which must have unsettled the players.
    Interesting to see if we can press on now.
     
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    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    I only try and help you out when you need it.

    Like e.g. when you post things as though you know summat more than the rest of us, but aren't prepared to share it.

    Anyway, I could say more here, but I'm not going to.
     
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    fitzytyke2 Well-Known Member

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    Why? James was a good player for us. On loan maybe, but as good as we could get.

    Hourihane fecked off for 28k a week. How do you replace someone with his ability like for like without spending silly money?
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Because Hourihane had goals and assists in him. Matty James didn't, and wasn't our player. He was there for fitness.

    We should have spent some of the Stones/Mawson/£6m TV/45% increase in gate money on a proper replacement.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    [QUOTE="tobyornottoby, post: 2191596, member: 54503"

    Like e.g. when you post things as though you know summat more than the rest of us, but aren't prepared to share it.

    [/QUOTE]

    Errrr.......I have never done that on this board. If you think I have in this thread then you are wide of the mark.
     
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    Whilst the article is obviously a bit of self preservation, I can believe that. Certainly. And it isn’t right that this would be done to a manager/head coach of a championship club.

    There will still be some though that say that not only is that false, he chose all the signings too.

    We have a better manager now imo - but if he’d stayed I think we’d have survived last season.

    He’ll be hated forever by some for how he left - but had he resigned citing being unable to work under the constraints and shackles, it might be a different story.

    I’m not sure he’ll be a success anywhere in the future, maybe it was a flash in the pan, but I refuse to rewrite history and say he did anything less than a great job for us.
     
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    Mr Badger Well-Known Member

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    The entire article more or less sums up what we all surmised at the time.... and for months afterwards.
    It goes to show we fans are not completely stupid and out of touch with reality.
    If what he says is true it puts things into perspective regarding our late owner. Maybe things were not all sweetness and light between the two of them and the hugs and kisses at the two finals were a prelude to an irrevocable split when the new season in the Championship had to be sorted out.
     
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    fitzytyke2 Well-Known Member

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    How much money do you think would have replaced a player commanding 28 grand a week?

    How much would YOU have paid him to make him the highest paid player at the club?

    All easy in theory and with someone else's money.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    How can you say the new manager is better after nine games at a lower standard?
     
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    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    Errrr.......I have never done that on this board. If you think I have in this thread then you are wide of the mark.[/QUOTE]

    Well why post that there's more that you could say, but that you won't?

    Why post that there's more that you could say?

    In my opinion, one should post what one feels the need to post. And leave it at that.
     
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    You’ve just identified the point of that article.

    So to all those on here that said he went to a bigger club with more prospects ........
    FOOK OFF !!!!!!!!!

    And after I spoke FOUR TIMES on Radio Sheffield during that week and was told by their presenters ‘he’s gone to a bigger club’
    FOOK OFF !!!!!!!!!!

    And to all those that keep saying Ganaye is a great fella
    JURY IS NOW DEFINITELY OUT !!!!!!!

    I’m absolutely seething after reading that - I always thought there was something wrong - and actually asked Radio Sheffield to investigate.

    The best manager at Barnsley in my lifetime was pushed.
     
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    I'd started disliking him well before he left. Some of his passing the buck was wearing thin, and watching the lads get routinely beat whilst our fans sang his name was just too much.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Do you mean how much would I have spent of the many millions of the club's money that came pouring in?

    Daft question.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Well why post that there's more that you could say, but that you won't?

    Why post that there's more that you could say?

    In my opinion, one should post what one feels the need to post. And leave it at that.[/QUOTE]

    For ****'s sake. Are you going to drag this post up now repeatedly for the next three years?

    I meant I have more opinions but they're verboten on here so not worth saying.
     
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    With all due respect Fitzy mate, Hecky wasn't talking about competing with the wage Villa offered. He was talking about offering him a new contract well in advance of that. Let's at least talk about what he says. And if we're talking about money then some of it was mine and some of it was yours and some of it was all the other members of this forum. And personally, I would have liked my money to have gone to offering the likes of Winnall and Hourihane new contracts 18 months before they actually were.
     
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    Yeah, come on pal. You seem to know about what goes off behind the scenes.

    Let's have some numbers. Don't be shy.

    How much should we have spent and on who?

    Name names and fees. I'm sure we'd all be interested to get your expert opinion.
     
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    Jesus H Christ.
     
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