Drones again - Heathrow this time

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  1. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Farnham_Red, Jan 8, 2019
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    Sorry, but our inability to deal with it is disgraceful
     
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    Only departures not arrivals?
     
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    Thats what the news feeds say. - not so surprising - 2 different runways with flight paths in totally opposite directions so its not as daft as it sounds
     
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    Why does a drone cause so much disruption? Surely they can't do much more damage than a pigeon if they come into contact with a plane?
     
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    I get that but if they only have reported sightings then they can't be sure where it is and a drone can get from one end of the airport to the other very quickly. Seems a bigger of a risk to take allowing arrivals when they aren't sure of the whereabouts of the drone.
    Unless of course they have visual contact with it which is a different matter altogether
     
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    A lot of drones are a meter across and made of solid metal. quite a bit different to a pigeon.
     
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    A drone that a photographer may use can weigh anything up to a quarter of a tonne, over 100 pigeons combined
     
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    Have you seen the photograph of the A320 that hit a drone. It damaged the leading edge slat, which if the aircraft had been on a final turn could have been catastrophic.
     
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  10. Farnham_Red

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    Good old Chris Grayling - is there anything this guy cant screw up
     
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    Have you googled the approximate weight of 100 pigeons
     
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    No but they weigh up to about 2kilo don't they?
     
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    get the British Clay pigeon shooting association down there .... SORTED !
     
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    1/4 a ton is 142 stone
     
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    Birdstrikes are a major problem for aviation and airports employ some surprising tech to keep birds away from runways - that plane that came down in the Hudson in 2009 came down because it hit just a couple of seagulls or something. They don't play well with jet engines :D
     
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    Actually it was a flock of geese. And a goose through a turbine at that speed will do a lot of damage. Though I don’t think seagulls are that good for the engines either.
     
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    Not surprised if it was geese that brought it down, they're a right set of barstewards. Their mates probably chased it all the way down pecking at the windows an'all.
     
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    Yeah, let’s shoot into the sky near an airport. What could possibly go wrong.
     
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    Maybe to ensure we dont miss we should scramble the RAF and have them fire sidewinders at any drones or other unidentified hovering objects :)
     
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    There was a video shown recently at the research facility that is investigating plane wing construction for bird strike impacts. Scary stuff. The bird (already dead btw in case you are concerned about animal welfare ;)) caused considerable damage to the leading edge but being organic with soft tissue covering did not penetrate the surface area. The drone tested in the video, penetrated deep into the structure of the wing severing/damaging cable guides, fuel lines, hydraulics for surface area controls which could be catastrophic. The simulation was 'relatively' low speed with a modest sized drone. A big commercial drone at higher speeds..... well you can imagine the damage that could cause. They were calling for drone design to include measures to minimise collateral damage to people and objects on impact (rather like the efforts to reduce pedestrian injuries with car design over the past two or three decades)
     
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