Everything is for sale

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  1. Glo

    GloucesterRedsBigBro Well-Known Member

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    I’ll go along with your reasoning but in my opinion that just ensures you stay where you are otheewise why are we now back where we were 3 years ago
     
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    Doesnt matter if we followed this system or went back to signing people like ashley ward or david currie.... if they do well for us the bigger teams will come sniffing and the millions they pay are massive to us but pocket change to them. Some clubs like wolves etc have also done this to take the best players off other teams around them to weaken them. Its all about money. Football is now all about money. Football as we knew it is pretty much dead.

    i don't think you can point the finger at the owners or the players as they have to balance the books - the issue is the money that the game is awash in and while ever people keep feeding it, it will continue to grow.

    Maybe it would take something like a breakaway league where there is an income cap, sponsor cap, etc but then which players are going to move to that to earn less? They have created a monster and its now eating itself in that the things that originally fed it are now dieing off (as evident here in people losing faith in the system). They need to remember to not bite the hands that feed em.
     
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    We only sign players on 2 or 3 year contracts. If theyre any good they're sold. If not they're released so you're never going to produce any loyalty like in the pre Bosman era. The Bosman ruling and agents have killed off any long term commitment to a club. The days of Spud Murphy and Bobby Hassel are gone. Hammill could have been another like them but we released him at the first opportunity.
     
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    Barnsley has never been a fashionable place to come and probably never will be so nothing new there. We have always had local talent come through be it pre or post academy and struggled to hold on to it so nothing new there either. I think what we experienced in Jan 2017 was a particular low point where we imploded largely due to bad management particularly in the contract department.

    Your post suggests that we are doing this again and I don’t think we are. If at the start of this transfer window you asked me if I would have settled for selling a first team regular (Potts) and a benchwarmer (Moncur) then I would have been more than happy. Isgrove was just deadwood presumably on a high wage and needed to go anyway.

    We are sitting pretty in third position at the moment and often playing some great football. The championship teams must be looking down at us and really fancying some of our better players. There must have been approaches, there simply has to have been whether made public or not and yet they are still Barnsley players.

    Regardless we will, for the foreseeable future be a selling club but it’s not all doom and gloom and we are recovering from the hangover of Jan 2017. With today being the last day of the transfer window we could of course go and sell Moore and Pinnock et al in which case all this is ******** and I too despair but until that point ….chin up!
     
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    I'm not saying a repeat of 2017, that was a car crash... but inevitable. The demoralising thing... come the summer, we'll lose some more, some wont have renewals, some will turn down offers, others will force a move (especially if we aren't promoted). and then it will be January... and so on and so on. Its not a moan, but when you cant keep a coach more than 6 months and a CEO 2 years and you look back less than 3 years and the only constant is Adam Davies.... that's actually an even more demoralising thing. And its very unlikely to change, and very unlikely we'll have many people here long enough to add to the HoF from this point on.
     
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    Come the summer hopefully we will have achieved promotion and that will mean widescale changes anyway as very few in this team can cut the mustard in the championship. Then we will see the mettle of the owners and see if they are prepared to do justice by our club by putting their hands in their pockets and who knows..........maybe Adam will still be there :)
     
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    How come you're in Denmark?

    Anyway (cos chances like this come along rarely) has there been anything of note today to tempt away to us your thoughts from the castle in Elsinore today oh Danish Tyke?

    Is there something rotten in the state of Oakwell?

    Your messages reach us but once or twice per annum.

    What happened to Rosencrantz and Guildenstern?
     
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    Half the team live in Leeds.
    We’ve lost two players who are involved in the first team.
    We’ve lost a coach.
    We’ve lost a CEO that’s not the most important cog in the machine and took a lot of credit for other people’s hard work.
     
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    Hi Toby I am here as a love refugee forever banished to a life of Carlsberg and pastries. My messages are few and far between but today there was something in the air, the planet's were aligned and OK the transfer deadline rattled me. I am more of a watcher rather than a doer especially when it comes to this forum which to be fair can be a most intimidating place. My one piece of wisdom would be: Though this be madness, yet there is method in't.

    Ps Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead :)
     
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    No point offering 200k for R and G then. Pity cos they would have worked well together - a bit Toshack and Keegan.

    Anyway, given there's only half an hour to go till GG goes, and despite not having seen how he looks in tights, here's his proper goodbye speech:

    "Tis now the very witching time of night,
    When churchyards yawn and hell itself breathes out
    Contagion to this world: now could I drink hot blood,
    And do such bitter business as the day
    Would quake to look on. Soft! now to Nice in France.
    O heart, lose not thy nature; let not ever (385)
    The soul of Cryne enter this firm bosom:
    Let me be cruel, not unnatural:
    I will speak daggers to Chien, but use none;
    My tongue and soul in this be hypocrites;
    How in my words soever she be shent, (390)
    To give them seals never, my soul, consent!
    You Reds!

    Half an hour to go...
     
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    The Danish Tyke Active Member

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    Lol.......
    Doubt thou the stars are fire;
    Doubt that the sun doth move;
    Doubt truth to be a liar;
    But never doubt I love.....Barnsley!

    Seems our team has survived the window.....off to bed......perchance to dream innit
     
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    GG's slide from hero to zero now seems to have deepened to the extent he's starting to sound like the villain of the piece. *******!
     
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    I've taken this transfer window badly. I blame Winkler!:

    O, that this too too solid flesh would melt
    Thaw and resolve itself into a dew!
    Or that the Everlasting had not fix'd
    His canon 'gainst self-slaughter! O God! God!
    How weary, stale, flat and unprofitable,
    Seem to me all the uses of this world!
    Fie on't! ah fie! 'tis an unweeded garden,
    That grows to seed; things rank and gross in nature
    Possess it merely. That it should come to this!
    But 2 weeks naffed off: nay, not so much, not two:
    So excellent an assistant coach ; that was, to this,
    Hyperion to a satyr; so loving to our head coach Daniel
    That he might not beteem the winds of heaven
    Visit his face too roughly. Heaven and earth!
    Must I remember? why, he would hang on him,
    As if increase of appetite had grown
    By what it fed on: and yet, within a month--
    Let me not think on't--Frailty, thy name is Winkler!
    A little month, or ere those shoes were old
    With which he follow'd our poor coach's body,
    Like Niobe, all tears:--why she, even she--
    O, God! a beast, that wants discourse of reason,
    Would have mourn'd longer--twinned with a coach from Huddersfield,
    An assistant manager, but no more like my father
    Than I to Hercules: within a month:
    Ere yet the salt of most unrighteous tears
    Had left the flushing in his galled eyes,
    He buggered off. O, most wicked speed, to post
    With such dexterity to incestuous sheets!
    Down the A628.
     
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