[Official Site] Club Statement.

Could you answer the following questions please.

1 - Have you seen Bambo Diaby's Penis?

If the above answer is no then please answer the following:

2 - Why do you then think people are singing a song about how massive it is?

Many thanks.

 

So what you are saying is the club, kick it out etc etc are wrong.

 

"What can we sing about Diaby?"
"I know hes black, let's say he's got a massive c0£k"

How could that possibly be racist in any way you ask?

 

Pythagoras' theorem is crap.... Blimey, I'm a racist.

 

If you've managed to get a degree then you should be able to understand the argument. It's been laid out concisely by a large number of people on here. That you don't accept it suggests you're being wilfully ignorant or the higher education system needs a thorough revamp.

 

There’s been study after study done about penis size worldwide and it’s found the global average to be between 5.1-5.5 inches and South American’s and Africans to have the largest members. Although obviously it’s a curve and there’ll be as many above that average as there are below, transposed to this situation it just means that the probability is on the side of Diaby having a bigger knob than say Woodrow or most of the Barnsley crowd.

However, intelligence stereotypes like what you’ve mentioned should probably be avoided because there’s a lot more interpretivistic argument that goes into non-physical measurement. But I get your point about that and that’s why I included the point in my original reply that if Diaby was uncomfortable with such a chant the club should make the fans aware on that basis.

 

Is assuming that a black man has a big penis a racial stereotype? It's a yes or no question.

If you answer "no" then I know you're just trolling.

 

Think it obvious now this chap is a TROLL!

 

Intelligence through education is not the argument. Intelligent Moral issues in this case yes. If racism is only based on education or shall we say honours. Then look to a lot of those at the top of the pile.

 

Fair point mate.

 

No, we will hopefully get to a point where people are educated enough to know what is appropriate language and what isn’t.

 

You’ll fit in well with our prime minister.

 

Barnsley in 2019 ladies and gentlemen...

There is no hope that this will be sorted. There really isn’t.

 

You’re arguing about a man’s cocksize ffs. The club has asked people to stop singing it. End of.

 

Some might say yes, some might say no. It’s not black and white. Personally - as with a lot of ethical questions - I don’t think there’s a right or wrong answer. It’s a highly nuanced topic and arguments can be made on both sides.

Btw being able to give the opposite response to a question you think you know the answer to, isn’t trolling. It’s called a debate and it’s what all human knowledge is based on.

 

Why don't they sing something positive about *him* then rather than just looking at his skin colour and singing a lazy stereotype? If I was doing something skilful in front of a group of men and they standing chanting something about me being good in the kitchen and making nice sandwiches, even though what I was actually doing was painting a picture or something, I probably wouldn't appreciate it that much (especially if it so happened that as well as it being irrelevant, my sandwich making skills are only average). I'd probably also have to say that I didn't mind or smile along otherwise a certain section of the people probably wouldn't buy my art anymore and would start calling me derogatory things as well.

Disclaimer: I don't know why I picked art, I can't draw to save my life.

 

Pity we haven't got any Jewish lads playing for us. We could sing how good they are and that they have big noses...
Pity we've no Japanese lads playing - we could sing about their short-sightedness.
Now, what was it about the chant....? Oh yes, I remember....
Drawing attention to stereotypes of any group/individual IS racist. It perpetuates the stereotype. That IS racist. People who refuse to accept that point when it's been politely explained to them are not ignorant they ARE racist.
I'll shut up now... These racist threads are a bit heavy

 

I don't think there was or is hostility in the chant, that doesn't mean it isn't racist. Something doesn't have to be said or done with malicious intent for it to be racist. I will 100% argue however that the chant was not initiated due to appreciation of Diaby's efforts. It was first sung during the Sheff U game before anybody had had reasonable time to assess the footballing merits of Bambo Diaby. The song was initially sung because a minority think it's a funny chant.

So it may not have been created or continued to be sung in a malicious way but here are some reasons why it's problematic:

1) We don't know how Bambo Diaby actually feels about the song. Regardless of how we perceive his reaction, if he did have a problem with it, you are asking a 21 year old lad in a new country and at a new club to come out personally and make a statement against the fans of his new club. He might not have a problem with it, but he shouldn't be put in a position where he has to even think about it.

2) There's not just Bambo Diaby to think about here. We have several other black players, players in other teams who are black, fans who are black, fans of other teams who are black. The argument that Bambo doesn't care so it's fine is irrelevant. On top of that, you don't need to be black to be offended by the chant. You're not down the pub with your black mate where you both know each other well and understand context of comments and jokes and have a mutual understanding that it's ok. Your in stadiums with 15000+ people of whom most are strangers.

3) The song itself is suggesting despite all Bambo Diaby's achievements in life, the one we think should be most highlighted is the supposition that he has a large penis just because he is black.

4) I assume nobody who has sung the song has seen his penis. So the fact is they are singing it based only on the fact that he is black. Do you think it's ok to sing his 'lips are ******* massive'. Just because you think it's positive, it doesn't make it OK.

5) The club have asked people to stop singing it. By continuing to do so people are basically saying 'despite being made aware that this chant could be offensive we are continuing to do so' I find that strange. It's not like Spurs' Yid army chant that they've been singing for years and forms some part of their identity ( although I would argue that they probably shouldn't sing that either) This song has been around for 3 weeks. I have to question the true intentions of people who insist that they be allowed to keep singing it.

In summary, I don't think it's being sung with malice but it is undoubtedly racist and there's no logical reason to continue singing it.

 

This man definitely has a degree in politics if this answer is anything to go by.

Managed to duck and weave far better then Ali ever could.

 

In all fairness... I know just the stretch of road you're referring to, and it should be a 40 speed limit....