Severe Poverty

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  1. PP Pepper

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    just reading ‘Severe Poverty ‘ is increasing among old people
    How would you describe Severe Poverty
     
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    Subjectively depending on the country you live in but there is no excuse for someone in the UK being unable to afford heat, light, decent nutrition etc.
    Nor is there any excuse for sitting on our hands saying we're ok and screw everyone else.
     
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    It's relative.

    As Churton also said, in this country I'd guess severe poverty impacts your ability to eat a decent diet, access to energy/fuel/water, difficulty travelling to access services, etc...

    Our severe poverty is probably rather different to severe poverty in somewhere like Yemen, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't tackle it.
     
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    Aint poverty just poverty?
     
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    The question was how you would define that.

    Anything below this:

    Access to health care

    Enough healthy food to eat

    Ability to get around (bus passes. etc)

    A roof over your head.

    Heating / lighting.

    The ability to communicate to the outside world, ie phone & internet
     
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    Just to develop the question , do you think £1000.00 income per month is an indication of
    ‘Severe’
     
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    Agree. How many people do you know not meeting that criteria ?
     
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    I don't know anyone who isn't homeless that is in that category.

    I do a bit of work with St George's Crypt in Leeds & there are many. Some may be judged to have brought problems on themselves due to mental illness & addiction, but there are a lot that don't fit that bill, being victims of child cruelty, bad luck losing jobs, and marital abuse (both male and female).
     
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    I’m relatively thick skinned. We are getting more and more older people at the food bank and I find it very hard not to get upset by it. Old folks walking for 30 minutes for a handout with not enough money left for heat etc.
     
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    the world is sick TBH, there are people on this planet who are totally and obscenely rich. I am not talking about sports stars, politicians, musicians either. The world should be able to look after its unfortunate ones , without the work of charities either.
     
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    Agreed
     
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    I've lived in what I'd consider sever poverty in the UK. I couldn't afford heat or electricity, I bought only potatoes to eat. I lived under these conditions for about 2 years. I was on incapacity benefit but had to use the majority of that to pay rent on my house and the standing charge on energy bills (I had to cook my potatoes) plus water and I'm pretty sure I had to pay some council tax. Sometimes I didn't eat for days at a time.

    But, I had a house. And I had access to free medical care and prescriptions. That would not be described as severe poverty in some countries.
     
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    Rather than develop the question why don't you come out and say what you're trying to get at?
     
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    Can’t disagree with that ,but alas it as ever been thus . Christ made it the centre of his teaching ,but I fear we have learned nothing . Please don’t class all ‘Rich’ folk the same
    American rich are renowned for their philanthropy .
     
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    If you cannot afford the basic nescessities.


    Food water and basic hygiene
    Heating
    A roof over your head
    Clothes on your back..

    Anything beyond that is a 'luxury'
     
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    Not trying to get at anything . Sorry you should feel a bit hostile . Re read the opening post
     
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    Ok then. How about giving us your definition? By the way I wouldn't fancy having to live on £1000 a month if I had rent or a mortgage to pay. I could probably do it and it wouldn't constitute extreme poverty in the sense of someone in sub Saharan Africa may compare but for a modern industrialised country that is supposed to look after its citizens it would be a sorry state of affairs.
     
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    Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”
     
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    Christians made up some bullsh*t about this, gates into a city and all that. No, if you're rich you're a cn*t.

    Not my view you understand, but that of the baby Jesus.
     
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