The best way to honour Jo Cox

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  1. Ste

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

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    Wasting your time. It's rules for one but not for others. If you're Labour you don't have to have the ability to think on your feet and construct an argument without using the name of a dead colleague.

    BOTH sides should have thought on their feet and should know better.
     
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    Best friend and MP for next constituency and would have worked together for a few years.
     
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    What rubbish !!
    I condemn any incitive language, the op asked why jo cox name was brought up and I answered in context with the language Johnson used.
    Then you come out with trying to use words nobody’s mentioned
     
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    Apart from the fact that McDonnell never said that. It’s been debunked many times.
     
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    Am I failing to detect the sarcasm here?

    You're right in that thinking on your feet, live to the nation, and in front of some of the squabbling cronies sat on the benches is hard. It's a skill. Something you must have as a politician. But I watched the whole thing and I think this was the first time that Jo Cox's name was brought up. It was a passionate plea from Paula Sheriff who was almost in tears as she posed the question to the PM.

    I'm no politician, but I'm pretty confident I wouldn't reply with 'I've never heard such humbug'. Christ on a bike there is no way you can make excuses for that response. It was appalling.
     
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    He should have known better for getting goaded into that line of argument and offered a compassionate response. There's no getting away from that.
     
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    Obviously with some of the replies some clearly do and try to counter by quoting/ misquoting to justify.
     
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    It might help if he taught himself the skill of answering the question posed to him. I know all politicians notoriously word answers to not actually give an answer, but nobody does it quite like Boris.
     
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    Why did it ask me if I was sure I wanted to like this post?
     
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    Apologies.
     
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    Contempt of parliament, surely? Not that it would bother him or any of the bent fu.cks who support him.
     
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    At least they are honest with a simple policy, unlike the mess that Labour are in.

    Vote Green for the sake of the planet and everything that lives on it and forget brexit, it’s not significant really.
     
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    Correct. Do your research again on this Captial Tyke, because you've got it wrong. Some bloke on Twitter posted the very audio clip this morning to prove that McDonnell said this. This was after Nadine Dorries accused him of it on Twitter. The gormless get didn't see that the clip was perfect evidence that McDonnell didn't say what he had been accused of.
     
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    This is typical headline grabbing. They’ve missed off half what he said.

    If you watched the full thing live, you will see there was nothing to it.

    Why Jo’s name was brought up was bizarre to me, but regardless, his reply was correct.

    He simply stated that the division in society created by Brexit isn’t good, and that the only way to calm everything down was to just get Brexit done so everyone can move on and worry about something else.

    I can’t see the issue about it - and when he said it, there wasn’t any adverse reaction in Parliament either. I was surprised to see the reaction this morning to be fair.
     
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    An MP just made this exact point to a chorus of boos. Sir Bernard Jenkin I think
     
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    Agree. I watched the whole thing live, and what he actually said in full, was fine and wasn’t met with any adverse reaction by Parliament. It was only when I checked the headlines this morning that it all came about.

    This is just a Boris witch-hunt. Like him or not, if you view the full question and answer provided, you can’t really see the issue.

    To be honest, Jo’s name shouldn’t have been brought up.
     
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    Stolen from the internet.....

    If you're still a Conservative voter then I'm sorry but you're the scum of the earth.

    I couldn't give a solitary **** what your views on Brexit are, yesterday's parliamentary ****-show should have sent shivers down the spine any right thinking person.

    I've said it before and I'll keep screaming it until I'm hauled into a ******* re-education camp for being politically opposed to our new fascist overlords; Boris is not a clown, and what we're seeing is not chaos.

    If you're still under the impression that things aren't going his way then you're both deluded and naive.

    He's ******* winning. He's literally Trumping his way to victory. Hard Brexiters and the politically disengaged are seeing snippets of rousing and impassioned speeches, and they love it. Sound familiar?

    The stage is being set you see, for the people versus parliament, or the establishment versus the establishment for those of us with eyes, only people are too thick to realise they're backing the ******* establishment.

    The Conservative party has changed. It's leader a far-right populist, it's moderates purged, it's respect for democracy and the rule of law dead. These are bitter times.

    Never in living memory have we witnessed such a brazen disregard for the courts, parliament and the people, all under the shameful guise of 'getting us out', **** the consequences.

    Boris Johnson stood at that dispatch box flanked by his snivelling, self-serving cabinet of lovely people, like a barbershop quartet of over privileged school bullies baying the opposition.

    The Attorney General fog-horned his disdain for an unworthy, dead parliament in his reverberating baritone.

    Punisher of the poor, Ian Duncan Smith giggled from the sidelines and added to his glorious leader's petty insults, like an insignificant sidekick begging for attention. Always the cuntsmaid, never the lovely person eh?

    And Rees-Mogg just sat smirking as if nanny had smuggled him an extra Jaffa cake at supper.

    Jo Cox is not a political pawn, yet her name was shamefully banded about for cheap point-scoring.

    Her tragic end was brought up as an example of what dangerous rhetoric and words can lead to, but that point was written off as 'humbug' by an indifferent psychopath.

    How dare Boris Johnson suggest that delivering Brexit is the best way to honour her memory. How dare he polititicise her at all.

    If you think any of this is acceptable then you're as bad as them. You're a despicable lovely person and should hang your heads in shame, for you will be culpable for the demise of democracy.
     
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    I watched the whole thing live and you're incorrect in your assumption here.

    He didn't get chance to say anything in full because there was outrage at his first response - 'I've never heard such humbug'. What he then fluffed his way through afterwards is irrelevant, because his initial response was appalling. What he said then led to multiple questions from other MPs along the same lines asking him to tone down his language and wording.

    The attention grabbing headlines are an actual account of how it was received at the time, by those in the house, others like me watching, and those commenting on Social Media.
     
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    Labour’s shadow chancellor was criticised in 2014 for repeating comments calling the former work and pensions Minister a “b****” who deserved to be “lynched”.

    Describing McDonnell as a “bully”, the Tatton MP, 51, told the Telegraph: “Labour always made it very personal against me because I was a Liverpudlian who dared to become a Conservative.
     

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