FAO Dane Murphy, Paul Conway.

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Birkdale Red, Oct 5, 2019.

Page 1 of 6
  1. Birkdale Red

    Birkdale Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2019
    Messages:
    648
    Likes Received:
    714
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Civil Servant
    Location:
    Birkdale
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    How was that the best transfer window ever? Estimated ROI?

    Because let me tell you this, a good transfer window in this country involves identifying personnel who can compete in the here and now. This is one of the most prestigious, competitive and difficult leagues in European, nay World football. The rewards for competing in it are good, the rewards for getting out of it are either phenomenal or disastrous, dependant on which way you exit.

    What the Championship is NOT, is a closed shop MLB / NFL / MLS league of franchises who are guaranteed to play the same teams year in year out. This is the English 2nd tier, Barnsley FCs spiritual home and which we look totally lost in, in no small part due to your activity over the summer and your failure to grasp what I have described above.

    It is a big mans league and you have equipped us with boys. Good, honest lads but totally out of their depth. As are yourselves. I have no choice but to respect your business acumen but this is our club you are toying with.

    Best transfer window ever? Yee har.
     
    Birkdale Red, Oct 5, 2019
    #1
    M.C.Tyke, On yer tyke, Dalestykes and 27 others like this.
  2. Vesp77

    Vesp77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Messages:
    2,605
    Likes Received:
    2,788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley
    They didn't say best, they said most successful.

    In terms of quantity of players and speed of hammering out deals they were right.

    Shame the quality of the players was severely lacking.
     
    Vesp77, Oct 5, 2019
    #2
    Loko the Tyke and Stephen Dawson like this.
  3. ben

    benjamoose Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2017
    Messages:
    413
    Likes Received:
    453
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Well said
     
    benjamoose, Oct 5, 2019
    #3
  4. Cod Eye

    Cod Eye Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2007
    Messages:
    2,440
    Likes Received:
    2,213
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    ^^^^^^^^
    This is the key bit! The much talked up "MoneyBall" system works in American sports as is it goes wrong, the team simply starts a fresh the following year with the first dibs on the best rookie players.

    Over here, you **** up the recruitment and it can have have a knock on effect for seasons to come...
     
    Cod Eye, Oct 5, 2019
    #4
    Hykehamtyke, Birkdale Red and Old Gimmer like this.
  5. Ste

    Steve Wood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2017
    Messages:
    642
    Likes Received:
    912
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Going into the Championship with Davies, Pinnock, Lindsey and Moore would have been very tough, as it's a massive step up from League One, but to replace them with inexperienced young lads was just laughable. The recruitment didn't even give us a chance, which is an insult to the loyal fanbase. You have to question their motives now...
     
    Steve Wood, Oct 5, 2019
    #5
    Tekkytyke, Connor, Airon c redscue and 2 others like this.
  6. noksucow

    noksucow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2019
    Messages:
    748
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I could have picked up as many signings as they did in the time it took them..... And all my signings would have been crap.. Its like mowatt and woodrow been offered contracts at prem sides... Course there gunna sign
     
    noksucow, Oct 5, 2019
    #6
    On yer tyke likes this.
  7. Gol

    Goldthorpe-Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2012
    Messages:
    4,553
    Likes Received:
    4,481
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Courier at DPD group UK.
    Location:
    The City of Darfield.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Phenomenal post, mate. Agree 1000000%.
     
    Goldthorpe-Red, Oct 5, 2019
    #7
    Birkdale Red likes this.
  8. Ged

    Geddiswasguud Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    4,685
    Likes Received:
    4,402
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Maybe by successful, they were referring to our healthy and admirable bank balance!!
     
    Geddiswasguud, Oct 5, 2019
    #8
    On yer tyke likes this.
  9. onlyonesteviecooper

    onlyonesteviecooper Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    1,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    FireFighter
    Location:
    Hemingfield
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Their bank balance. Have any of our multi billionaires put a single penny of their own money into the club, or is it all borrowed against the club of which we are paying interest? Genuine question.
     
    onlyonesteviecooper, Oct 5, 2019
    #9
  10. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    11,872
    Likes Received:
    11,665
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I logged on to post something similar. You have nailed it.
     
    orsenkaht, Oct 5, 2019
    #10
    Birkdale Red likes this.
  11. gla

    glavintoby Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2009
    Messages:
    341
    Likes Received:
    57
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Best thing these P ricks can do is sell up and F eck off.
     
    glavintoby, Oct 5, 2019
    #11
    Hykehamtyke likes this.
  12. exiled

    exiled Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2006
    Messages:
    8,623
    Likes Received:
    8,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Melton Mowbray.....Pies n Cheese.
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    They've gone very quiet tho haven't they.
    Paul not been showing up at the fanzine of late, Dane not been giving us an optimistic soundbite.
    About time they showed up and explained what their strategy is to improve this shiteshow they created.
     
    exiled, Oct 5, 2019
    #12
  13. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    11,872
    Likes Received:
    11,665
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    How popular were they at Nice?
     
    orsenkaht, Oct 5, 2019
    #13
  14. noksucow

    noksucow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2019
    Messages:
    748
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Tbf to them there buisness men not supporters. If you had there money would you be going to oakwell on a cold fixture aposed to a warmer climate.......... Not defending em just if i was in there position
     
    noksucow, Oct 5, 2019
    #14
  15. exiled

    exiled Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2006
    Messages:
    8,623
    Likes Received:
    8,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Melton Mowbray.....Pies n Cheese.
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Murphy is CEO of a struggling business, a bit of an explanation of what theyre planning to improve things might be in order.
     
    exiled, Oct 5, 2019
    #15
    Hykehamtyke likes this.
  16. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    16,668
    Likes Received:
    17,691
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Wasn't Conway on stage the game before Brentford? And didn't Dane Murphy do an in depth interview with the Yorkshire Post or someone similar pretty recently?

    I'm all for criticism, but so many people throwing inaccuracies around about player stats, moneyball (we only quote moneyball because of Billy Beane - we're not actually operating a moneyball system), and other things. Keep it real folks.
     
    Loko the Tyke, Oct 5, 2019
    #16
    Stephen and SFOTyke like this.
  17. exiled

    exiled Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2006
    Messages:
    8,623
    Likes Received:
    8,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Melton Mowbray.....Pies n Cheese.
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    I don't remember hearing any acknowledgement from any of the board members or the CEO that things are not going to plan. We are on a quite disastrous run and I'd have thought someone would be giving an explanation/ hope for the future spiel/ spouting ********, just something..........oh for the days of Ben.
     
    exiled, Oct 5, 2019
    #17
  18. stairfoot.red

    stairfoot.red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    3,517
    Likes Received:
    6,472
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Computer Engineer
    Location:
    Stairfoot
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Your right about not operating the Moneyball system because if we were we'd not be against signing players with experience we are operating James Crynes version and it's not working.
     
    stairfoot.red, Oct 5, 2019
    #18
  19. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    16,668
    Likes Received:
    17,691
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    You think we're operating the vision of someone who owns 20% of the club?

    James Cryne provides us with an algorithm that uses stats to identify players. He doesn't go out and sign those players based solely on the stats. The 'spreadsheet' didn't sign Sibbick, Raddlinger, Bahre or Wilkes as they were all players Stendel identified.
     
    Loko the Tyke, Oct 5, 2019
    #19
  20. Jimmy viz

    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2012
    Messages:
    29,686
    Likes Received:
    19,159
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballet Dancer
    Location:
    Hiding under the bed
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I have no doubt that some of the signings will cone good in time. Not giving them time to develop or the support of experienced colleagues is to say the least unhelpful
     
    Jimmy viz, Oct 5, 2019
    #20
    John Peachy and Connor like this.
Page 1 of 6

Share This Page