Daniel's side of the story

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Redhelen, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. lk3

    lk311 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2016
    Messages:
    9,564
    Likes Received:
    7,777
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    So that reads to me as the EFL/FA are happy to let two clubs resolve and only get involved if needed(bit like a transfer).
     
  2. Che

    Chef Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2005
    Messages:
    19,555
    Likes Received:
    12,573
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    West Stand Bogs
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Sure
     
  3. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2018
    Messages:
    37,637
    Likes Received:
    44,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    So going with this what could we expect given that we didnt lose our manager to this championship club?
     
    Geddiswasguud and lk311 like this.
  4. lk3

    lk311 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2016
    Messages:
    9,564
    Likes Received:
    7,777
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Now that is a good question
     
  5. Ged

    Geddiswasguud Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    4,682
    Likes Received:
    4,402
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Gross misconduct for what?
    He hasnt gone anywhere, if he was speaking to another club (happens all the time) then bfc should be going for an illegal approach......so in the first instance, complaining to the club involved. Something the board hasnt denied happened. Nope their spin on this was aimed at getting rid of him and they sacked him.
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2019
  6. Che

    Chef Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2005
    Messages:
    19,555
    Likes Received:
    12,573
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    West Stand Bogs
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Enticing other staff to leave..
     
    Dub-Tyke likes this.
  7. Ged

    Geddiswasguud Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    4,682
    Likes Received:
    4,402
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    But no one has gone anywhere, different when the board tell us a player wants to leave etc. This stuff happens loads....enticing others does imply a bit more but really?
     
    Old Gimmer and Redhelen like this.
  8. Athersleyer

    Athersleyer Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2017
    Messages:
    331
    Likes Received:
    181
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Service Desk Manager
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Everyone on this BBS, we should all go on Sky Sports' The Debate show, we'd smash it.
     
    Redhelen likes this.
  9. Red

    Reds Fan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2015
    Messages:
    2,113
    Likes Received:
    2,886
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    they have gone somewhere, after being released from their contracts by this board!! I wouldn’t believe a word Conway says
     
  10. Ged

    Geddiswasguud Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    4,682
    Likes Received:
    4,402
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Me neither
     
    Reds Fan likes this.
  11. Red

    Reds Fan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2015
    Messages:
    2,113
    Likes Received:
    2,886
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    it makes no sense. We are angry because DS was trying to entice CS and DT away and yet the moment we get a new coach in we replace them anyway. We could have got compo

    if it was common knowledge DS wanted away why wait weeks to sack him? If it was only revealed sometime after the fact then how could the turmoil be blamed for the poor results?
     
    Redhelen and Geddiswasguud like this.
  12. Che

    Chef Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2005
    Messages:
    19,555
    Likes Received:
    12,573
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    West Stand Bogs
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
    doesn’t matter
     
  13. Old Goat

    Old Goat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2017
    Messages:
    8,070
    Likes Received:
    14,927
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    It'll all come out in the wash. This is a case of two businesses involved in a legal dispute. It wont be a trial by jury based on opinions. It will be based on facts - facts supported by evidence.

    If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on Hearts and BFC eventually coming to an understanding, with an undisclosed amount heading our way. But obviously I could be wrong. Just my gut feeling.
     
    lk311 likes this.
  14. Red

    Reds Fan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2015
    Messages:
    2,113
    Likes Received:
    2,886
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    sure it won’t be the only time we’ll hear the word “undisclosed” in January
     
    Old Goat and Redhelen like this.
  15. Tyk

    Tyketical Masterstroke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2011
    Messages:
    9,827
    Likes Received:
    13,261
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Dry buumer
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    He’s gonna fight
    For his rights
    To parrrrrrrttttttyyyyyyyyy ( in the Garrison)
     
    Gordon Owen, TitusMagee and Redhelen like this.
  16. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2008
    Messages:
    40,155
    Likes Received:
    7,177
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Project Manager
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Me too Helen, and I suspect we're in the majority.
     
  17. jph

    jph77 Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2011
    Messages:
    339
    Likes Received:
    146
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Yes it does happen all the time but it doesn't mean it might not be breach of contract.

    Often fans complain about players doing what they want (transfer wise) while under contract, they get away with it and it's widely accepted but what if a club decided to execute clauses in the contract? Something similar to this would occur....
     
  18. Sta

    Stahlrost Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2006
    Messages:
    21,272
    Likes Received:
    13,378
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    None
    Location:
    Dodworth
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    I concur with your suspicion.
     
  19. bright red

    bright red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2007
    Messages:
    3,017
    Likes Received:
    729
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    If we take Stendel at his word then you have to assume that he was not in contact with any other club before he was sacked. If he had been he would have mentioned it in this statement as he is honest and straightforward. You believe this to be true.
    I defended Stendel initially when he left because rumours about him being in contact with with either Boro or Sunderland did not ring true. I have no idea what the facts are but I now believe he must have been in contact with someone - otherwise the whole thing makes no sense whatsoever.
     
    55&counting likes this.
  20. Dub-Tyke

    Dub-Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,651
    Likes Received:
    4,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes. That was my point.

    If he was talking to others, then there is a case for Gross Misconduct. He leaves immediately, no additional pay but conversely no future compo due to us.

    If he’s on Garden Leave - which reports seem to confirm, then he’s still paid monthly and we’re entitled to compo and don’t have to stump up a settlement either straight away.

    If he was dismissed with payment in lieu of notice, then he’ll have a fat lump of cash in his account and be free to do what he wants.

    The fact the club have kept quiet for so long and only just released a statement now, as well as Stendel getting a job pretty quickly, says to me Garden Leave. If he was settled up in full, usually the manager has a period agreed where he can’t work for so long afterwards - like Hecky did after Leeds.
     
    anstonred, 55&counting and Chef Tyke like this.

Share This Page