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  1. SuperTyke

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    When you put it like that I definitely can see it happening. The poor lad, imagine having a mum who will so gleefully slag you off to her mates and who's mates include him
     
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    And there’s nothing at all wrong in what you’ve been taught, it was taught to you by us after all ! It’s exactly what I’ve taught my daughter, don’t be afraid to stand up for yourself, don’t be ashamed to be successful and always be kind. I do feel though that there’s a chasm opening up between what we consider acceptable and what millennials do, and I’m not sure how to close it back up again.
     
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    What do you think is acceptable? That millenials don't?
     
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    Jeez you really do have a chip on your shoulder dont you ? How discriminatory are you being !? And who is well known to hate millennials btw ?she didn't slag off her son she recounted the take as an example of how she didn't understand the difference between what she thought was ok to say and what he didn't. It wasn't slagging him off at all. But look at you, all upset about a different view. Case closed flower.
     
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    I was always taught to respect my elders. And that respect isn’t “earned”, but it can be lost...
     
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    Exactly. That's why I think it can be so baffling. "But you taught us to do this so why are you so upset and calling us snowflakes"
    I sit with my dad and his mate at the match and sometimes they're trying to say things I agree with but use words that cause offence now. I point it out and give them a different way of saying it. Largely they take the piss but sometimes you can hear them make sure they use the alternative I've offered them.
    Geology suggests there's no way to close the chasm. All we can do is build bridges and help one another over them.
     
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    Shouldn't it just be "respect everybody"?
     
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    I always liked 'Be excellent to each other'
     
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    Of course, but elders in particular were singled out. Because as a youth it was easy not to, as I didn’t understand their perspective or have their experience.
     
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    Surely just as many members of your parents generation would have done and said loads of things that you rightly found unacceptable when you were young. Isn't that progress?
     
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    Well that’s easy - stop considering racism, sectarianism and misogyny as acceptable!

    the worlds only going to carry on moving in the same direction; so you either accept that you have fallen out of step and will become increasingly left behind, or simply update your attitudes.
     
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    I'm technically 1 year late. The number of portacabins at all my schools at the time suggest the baby boom continued after 1964. (According to Wiki it's up to 1964). I just end up in Generation X, which as an old punk is OK.
     
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    That cant be entirely correct because the description was used when I was at school. We were generation x and the generation before was the boomers or baby boomers. This was before the millennials were a twinkle in their parents eyes.

    It's just a descriptive term to define one particular generation that started after the war.
     
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    Possibly, but I think that the difference was that we would have been more reluctant to express our views for fear of being cheeky or even disrespectful. Something we addressed when we brought up our kids.
     
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    Yes but the terms have always existed from a statistical point of view.

    Great generation - called because they fought in the world wars.
    Silent generation - did as they were told because all they knew were strict rules and military
    Baby boomers - post war. High fertility rate.
    Gen X - went for a generic name as didn't want to be labelled by a characteristic.
    Gen Y (millenials) - Following the same system of generic making except were called millenials to insult by those older.
    Gen Z - current crop.


    The names have always existed and used for statistical purposes but rarely been used in every day conversation or at least haven't for a long time until the boomers wanted to degrade gen Y. Growing up I never heard a single person use these names, I never heard boomers until after I started getting insulted by older people calling me a millennial if I disagreed with their racism or if I disagreed with them wanting to shaft me so they could reap all the benefits.
     
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    The terms have always been used, at least in my experience. Baby boomers was common parlance even when I was at school. It was commonly referred to in literature and media.

    Also the term millennial is not a pejorative, the term snowflake generation tends to be the term used as an insult.

    From Wikipedia...

    Authors William Strauss and Neil Howe are widely credited with naming the millennials.[2] They coined the term in 1987, around the time children born in 1982 were entering kindergarten, and the media were first identifying their prospective link to the impending new millennium as the high school graduating class of 2000.[3] They wrote about the cohort in their books Generations: The History of America's Future, 1584 to 2069 (1991)[4] and Millennials Rising: The Next Great Generation (2000).[3]
     
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    wtf Reread my post mate. I think you've got me confused with someone else.
     
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    How have they “shafted” you?
     
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    I meant more the ‘ok boomer’ thing.
     
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    I keep reading this but this 70yo child of the 60's, summer of love and the biggest social change ever witnessed, boomer gets more left wing and angrier as each day goes by. I left school at 15 and was never out of work till I took redundo/early retirement at 56.I had the opportunity to leave a nice cushy job in retail at 21 and straight into the decent paid steelworks job I held for the next 35 years. Hard work and plenty of 12 hour shifts that gave me a decent pension. We fought for our rights and pay rises, striking when needed and I'm bloody angry that the kind of opportunity I had is now denied my grandson due to the thatcherite neo-liberal elite war waged on the working class since 1979. Unfortunately while the miners, steelworkers, train drivers and countless others fought a losing battle to safeguard our rights a lot of our fellow workers were seduced by the promise of middle class status and saw it as beneath them to get involved in industrial struggle. Whilst I'm angry at how it's turned out I'm also ashamed that sections my generation let it happen. Cue out of touch left wing dinosaur jibes.
     
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