Land/Right of Way

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Dyson, Jan 13, 2020.

  1. Dys

    Dyson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    14,367
    Likes Received:
    4,534
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Tarn centre
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Any experts here? We're looking at buying a house of which comes with a strip of land out back we'd earmarked for parking. However, that land is the only access the neighbour would have to get on to public land. My plan was to leave that open & just park our cars on there. The neighbour has just said they're looking at building a garage on their drive way & as such would need access for their car but this then means that bit of land becomes useless.

    The land registry has that land clearly allocated to the house we're looking at but I dunno the ins & outs of right of way? Do I just need to ensure they can access it and don't need to leave a space for their car etc?
     
  2. Red

    RedLeader21 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2017
    Messages:
    649
    Likes Received:
    933
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Will DM you
     
  3. man

    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,489
    Likes Received:
    17,435
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The first question is whether there is there anything on the title about the right of way?
     
  4. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    11,869
    Likes Received:
    11,665
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    If you have an office copy of the registered title to the property then any easements or rights of way to which your prospective neighbour would be entitled would be listed in Section A. Property Register. If such rights are not on the register then they may be unenforceable. But I'd be wary of purchasing a property if there is the potential for a dispute.
     
  5. Dys

    Dyson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    14,367
    Likes Received:
    4,534
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Tarn centre
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    In terms of right way, does that include right of way of vehicles or just people?

    I think it's potentially a nightmare so not sure I can be arsed...
     
  6. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    16,668
    Likes Received:
    17,691
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I've got something similar where I have to ensure there's access at the back of the house for right of way. My understanding is that it's for a vehicle, but that's redundant in my situation as there isn't space for them to have one.

    I've had a couple of nightmares with it over the last couple of years and what is classed as 'right of way'.
     
  7. Durkar Red

    Durkar Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2005
    Messages:
    12,055
    Likes Received:
    8,112
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Exorcist
    Location:
    err..durkar
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    How old are the houses and how long has your prospective neighbour been in his house . If he’s been there a long time and not yet built a garage there might be a reason for that , he can’t because he hasn’t got access
     
  8. leeupo

    leeupo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2014
    Messages:
    555
    Likes Received:
    378
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Shafton
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    As someone who lives in a property with a similar situation, I would say either walk away or accept you can do nothing with the land.
     
  9. BrunNer

    BrunNer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2007
    Messages:
    5,527
    Likes Received:
    5,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Don't buy it.
     
  10. man

    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,489
    Likes Received:
    17,435
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    It will depend on what is said on the title. However if there's nothing on the title then that doesn't mean no right exists. If the right has been exercised for at least 19 years and a day then an easement may have arisen by way of prescription. Whether that includes vehicles would depend on how it's actually been used during the relevant period.

    If you DM me the addresses of the 2 properties I can pull the titles from the land registry and have a quick look what the position looks like on paper.
     
  11. Ome

    Omen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    7,592
    Likes Received:
    1,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    As i understand it if they have used it unchallenged for a certain amount of time they can claim access rights - get the right legal info but i know someone who had similar issues and it was a nightmare for them. If its a dealbreaker id try another property if you are not too invested.
     
  12. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    43,096
    Likes Received:
    31,490
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    On Sofa
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Thaz only just finished thi current house
     
  13. Dys

    Dyson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    14,367
    Likes Received:
    4,534
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Tarn centre
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Like a challenge don't I.
     
  14. Dys

    Dyson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    14,367
    Likes Received:
    4,534
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Tarn centre
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Thanks everyone.

    In summary, I've taken all the prospective advice & concluded it sounds like a right f.cking nightmare. Lovely stuff.

    It's handy this place as long as you don't talk about football.
     
  15. Dys

    Dyson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    14,367
    Likes Received:
    4,534
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Tarn centre
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Completely forgot we did that sticker you've got as your profile picture.
     
    leeupo likes this.
  16. Red

    Red-Taff. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    5,293
    Likes Received:
    3,427
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    totally agree with OrsenK about NOT purchasing a property with the possibility of a dispute. The fact your prospective neighbour has decided he is looking to build a garage at this time should set an alarm bell ringing.
     

Share This Page