I like the idea of Div 1

What's that psychological term where if you keep telling yourself something good will come out of something bad, it becomes a reality in your mind?

 

psychotic delusion.

 

I've supported us "fuĺl-time" since 78 and thereafter that we have spent the majority of time in the 2nd tier, more often than not comfortably so. I see us as a 2nd tier team. The idea that we are or should be a 3rd tier team does not sit easy with me. I can't invest emotionally anymore (modern football) in mediocrity. It's harder now its 25, 30£ plus for me to do so.

 

I think I was thinking of "auto-suggestion" but psychotic delusion is close enough

 

until the summer sles... then we will be lucky to have a dozen.

 

you so obviously have not grasped the devastating effect the invention by SKY of the premier league and its knock on effect... basically it means clubs such as us are moved down a rung on the fotballing ladder. Take serious think about this.

 

Not my take tbh. We needed genuine football people to take over with a bit of clout, similar to Brentford and PNE as certainly PNE are a similar sized club to ourselves.
Why should we accept mediocrity just because we have plastic billionaire businessmen who won’t invest their own supposed fortunes?
Perhaps if they did ( that’s if they are as wealthy as they initially portrayed btw, not too sure myself) they would achieve the success they talked about when they took over? After all, I’m sure they’d be less inclined to pi$$ about with a promotion winning side and replace them with loads of bang average kids if they were funding this club from their own pockets.
To do what they have and are doing is footballing suicide for our club. But hey, they aren’t risking their own money so they can afford to not take our failure too seriously.
Then when their buy-out loan is repaid, I’ll wager they’ll flog us on for a small profit to themselves and chalk us down to an experiment that failed.
Meanwhile, BFC will have been set back years by their flagrant and carefree damaging actions.

 

$ky can shove their tv where the sun don't shine, just got iptv & it's the dogs ******, unfortunately it shows every game to mid league 1 which has a knock on effect on us
i skipped the pne game knowing i can watch it at home, but football in general is too expensive anywhere

 

I have: that's why i said i can't emotionally invest with reference to modern football?

 

From the inception of the premier league in 92/3 what % of time have we spent in the 2nd tier or above? Got to be 80% +
Not bad going considering many of our own supporters consider us to be minnows.

 

Utter rubbish.

 

Utterly stupid. Said so at the time. Sale of key players (please don’t feed me the ridiculous line that we had to let them go because they wanted to leave!), then signing an array of youngsters based upon God knows what. We are truly reaping what the owners have sown, and I honestly believe we deserve much better.

 

The club doesn't have to let go of any contracted player. But there are consequences whatever they choose. I don't know the inner workings of a football club, I'll leave Red Rain to do that with his financial threads but I imagine there are reasons behind each purchase and sale. And it's a human business, a human sport. We are all human and make mistakes. It's my opinion and was from the word go, that losing Pinnock would be a huge blow, as would losing Moore if he wasn't adequately replaced. So they're mistakes to my mind. As is the exclusive way we recruited last summer.

These are just my opinions though and whilst I imagine they're shared by many, it doesn't make them correct or any more weighty than others.

 

I think we are probably agreeing then. I know Einstein didn’t actually say that the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same things whilst expecting a different outcome, but it’s pretty true anyway. So, we’ve just signed a 29 year-old and perhaps that’s the first indication that the owners are starting to learn; who knows? It’s just a great pity that we are going to be ignominiously relegated from the poorest Championship in recent history in the process.

 

Did you see the comment from Guardiola saying he didn’t know why the ground wasn’t full for the Fulham game? I think we know why!! £££££££

 

Well thought out response. Fool.

 

I think what will happen eventually with the big clubs getting richer there will be a market for slumming it watching "real football" in the lower leagues. It's like retro games consoles people are buying old Ataris, Sega's and Nintendo's. I think that's the market the new Barnsley owners are wanting to tap into.

Or....they're waiting for financial fair play to really kick in and Barnsley F.C will win the Premiership by default.

I don't think there is such thing as a rightful place otherwise there wouldn't be a competition.

 

If we enjoy L1 that much, maybe we should just enjoy walking it every year from now on, then forfeit our right to go up and do it all again?

Personally, I want us the treat the Championship with the same guts and intent that we did through the 80's and 90's where we feared nobody and more than competed with the best.

 

Gwapple my gwapenuts.