Not seen it mentioned but Jacob Brown

You're better than that mate. Looked like a right Pillock swan diving to the floor and rolling around holding his face.

 

Devil if you do, Devil if you don’t. Perhaps he’s responding to the criticism that we don’t try to con the ref often enough. Most of the cynical fouls yesterday came from the opposition but the first booking was ours (Styles) for dissent I think. I’ve seemed it termed as being ‘ more streetwise’ There were quite a few ‘benefit of the doubt’ decisions went to the opposition yesterday.

 

Get rolling around. Do some cheating. Everyone else does it.

 

That’s why footballs ****** and we have VAR

 

I’m sure most of us don’t like to see play-acting, cheating etc, however in today’s game, if you want to be part of the club, you have to act like the other members or you miss out on the ‘benefits’ We have to evolve/ adapt I’m afraid

 

What benefits do you get from cheating players who cheat are soon found out

 

Quite clearly, the benefits you get are the Ref’s decisions. I’ve seen us many many times at the wrong end of decisions where the opposition have clearly cheated. This is why we have to adapt

 

NO !!!

 

Conning the ref a great way to adapt

 

Yes, have you read my posts properly? It’s the modern game, getting the ref to buy your antics

 

Most refs will only be bought a couple of times it’s not a new thing to con the ref it was happening in the 70s so it’s not the modern game at all it’s called cheating

 

It is very much ingrained in the modern game, I used to be a ref so I’ve seen it from all sides, playing, watching and reffing. Previously it was tried on a couple of times, but it was never ingrained in the game like it is today. You only have to listen the ex- Pro TV pundits, they come out with things like, ‘he felt his breath, so he had every right to go down’ Players are programmed to draw fouls today, unfortunately when they’re not fouls, they make them look like fouls, and even exaggerate the injury. That was never the game I grew up with in the 70s.

 

As a ex ref county amateur league in the 90s I made sure that cheats were never put up with it’s gone too far as now football clubs even coach cheating even managed and coached in the west riding county prem league never put up with cheating

 

That’s kinda my point, But I’m talking about the modern pro game, It is ingrained and the con artists get the decisions. It is a case of if you can’t beat em, join em

 

No stronger officials are the answer

 

Is it just modern though? It's the ex pros who encourage it which suggests to me that they were doing it which therefore suggests it isn't something that is new.

Nor is it something that should be encouraged

 

The ‘ingrained’ bit is relatively new to this Country. I’m not saying conning is new, just the amount and frequency of it, and the almost acceptability of it by tv pundits et al. We have to adapt.

 

Good debate lads played at a decent level till I was 45 then reffed for 10 years never cheated just got on with it it’s poor if you have to con the ref a reflection of the game today

 

I don't think it's new. Pundits and commentators have excused it for years and years. I know that because I've been complaining about it since Michael Owen and shearer were excused by commentators back in the 90s.

I think the only difference between now and then is that TV coverage is much more in depth and we see everything that happens and if it's missed on TV it's on social media. But I honestly don't think that the level of cheating is any higher just the level of awareness.

The adaption is to stamp it out, not to fake injury to try to get players sent off. Jacob brown is a brilliant young player with the world at his feet. He doesn't need to pretend he's been hit in the face, it made him look pathetic in all honesty

 

I was close to it, he got a hand in the face, possibly in the eye. It was purely accidental but that doesn't mean that it didn't hurt.