Player sales then regardless of league position?

So listening to other postings it seems Many supporters it seems are resigned to mass player sales each season regardless of which league we are in or league postion at the time. Well for me if that means fighting off relegation each year then the f_ _ k__g 'Plan' is wearing a bit thin and the supporters (myself included) won't put up with it much longer. I have always gone for the early bird off but if that is the owners little game then they can stuff that. When or if they show a true desire to move the club forward that's when I will respond in kind. I have watched this club for over 52 years and we have had many ups and downs but with owners who in the main have wanted the best for the club ,it's supporters and owners. Not investors who have no empathy for the club or its fans or for football I suspect.

 

your stance is held by many on here... but as for the owners it falls on their deaf ears.

 

I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said but they are Chinese. Did you ever expect them to be in it for the love of Barnsley?
I’m still enjoying watching a young team trying to play football the right way. If they start playing like Birmingham and selling the family jewels then I will draw the line.

 

Well the fact that they"re Chinese is not
the point. Look at the chairman of Leicester city who was committed to the club but wasnt from Leicester. Our owners bought and sold Nice FC and are at the moment negotiating to buy yet another club after failing to buy St.Mirren. They remind me of the game of monopoly ,buying football clubs here and their and selling them if they don't turn over a profit. I think if the club fail to make money through selling players on mass they will look to move on. I don't think P Cryne would have wanted that for Barnsley FC when he sold the club on but he was a football fan and Barnsley Supporter.

 

Ahhhh, the thoughtful insight and understanding of BBS posters....

 

Yep there are a sub-set of obscenely rich that like owning a football club as a status symbol /pet. Chelsea, Man City and Leicester are examples. Did our lot ever strike you as being of that type?

 

It was widely discussed on here that Pinnock wanted to move back down South, Lindsay had no interest in staying at the club and wouldn’t enter any discussions with the club, and after his injury Moore realised his career was short and wanted to capitalise his earnings and go where the money was highest.

We didn’t sell any player that wanted to stay. Whether we got full value is a different topic.

Would we have still sold the 3 players mentioned if they didn’t want to leave? No one knows for certain, but I imagine people will speculate on that to their own feelings on our current board.

I think whether or not we will sell at the end of the season will again come down to whether players want to stay or not.

 

Aye all these reasons why players leaving are all completely honest and the money is only secondary...what a load of cobblers! If someone signs a contract then they have to comply with the terms of th contract. All this wanted to be nearer home, realised his career was short is a smokescreen to justly our owners selling our better players against the wishes of the supporters. They couldn't use the only one year left of his contract angle on K Moore cos he had two years left on his !! Or board are like politicians in that they will say owt they like to justify their actions.

 

The board didn't use it as a smokescreen.Moore for example told the national press his reasons for moving.

 

So it’s only the club that has come out with this to make it cobblers? And in your eyes people ‘in the know’ that said Lindsay didn’t want to stay or even talk to the club are full of crap and aren’t really ‘in the know’? And it was more then one person on here saying that!

And Moore did an interview on BBC basically confirming this. Or maybe he is wrong too and the club told him to say it?

 

This is spot on. I really don’t believe that some people still trot out this rubbish about players wanting to leave so the club has to acquiesce. They will always want to leave if another club offers them significantly more money. They are professional footballers seeking to make the best of a short career. The club decides whether to sell or not.

 

It’s very rare for a player to be kept after saying they want to leave, particularly at this level.

 

The replacements were the problem - not strictly the fact that these players left. Weve always replaced players, but this time, the chain broke big time.

Winnall - Bradshaw - Moore - Schmidt

Mawson - Roberts - Pinnock - Anderson

Muller - Steele - Davies - Radlinger

Edit: Woodrow technically replaced Bradshaw but the point still stands.

 

He gave his reasons for wishing to leave. The reason he left was we sold him for cash.

 

And just before the end of the transfer window (but after majority of season tickets were sold by that time)to another lower end championship side to add insult to injury giving the club no time to make an adequate replacement in time for the start of the season. £££££££s in the bank but weakens the team by selling top scorer. .....very sensible thing to do that was.

 

But he expressed a desire to leave, as did Pinnock and Lindsay. Do you agree with that? Regardless on your opinion of whether we should have sold or held the players to contract?

If so, then what I say about only selling players who wanted to leave is true?

To therefore answer your opening question, if we sell or not at the end of this season could be dependant on if players want to stay or not, rather then league position or the board deciding to cash in regardless of if a player wants to stay or not?

 

I don’t know if you’ve read any of the interviews Moore gave to the press , he talks about re-evaluating his career after his head injury and felt he had out grown the club . He could be lying and didn’t want to go but was forced to go despite having a contract ,

 

It’s not just about the replacements though! It’s about the team chemistry and how long said replacements to settle into consistent performances at this level, all our signings in the summer have taken 2 thirds of season to even attain an average level. You can’t just wait that long every cycle hence you need ready to go loans or experienced pros who are ready to go from day dot to accompany young and inexperienced sales projects

 

Mowatt and Woodrow are the explanation for going up from league 1. And Brown too but he wasn't so central a role. We lose those and its back to experience again and the job becomes harder,