Sorry to bring it up again, but I have a question for the Vegans/Veggies on here

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  1. SuperTyke

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    Bit of both in a way. Obviously comparing the two but it was a genuine bit of curiosity when I saw how many we eat it and it's a lot more than I thought I couldn't help but wonder how many animals do because that numbers must be astronomical.
     
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    Sorry but utter, utter 5h1te.. A hundred years ago 1910.. when no one had any agendas the worlds population was 1-7 billion.
    Since then we've had... to list but a few..

    2 world wars
    countless other wars.. way, way too many to list world wide.
    diseases from flu to cancer.. (flu in 1918 which killed more than ww1 alone).. kills millions world wide to name but two
    Mad Dictators .. Starlin, Pol pot.. Chinese killed millions in Tibet alone..
    Natural disasters ..
    Maybe China but the Chinese people have been restricted to one kid..
    Then in the 60s, womens lib kicks in, and the pill..
    Abortions... there are now 46 million abortions a year in this degenerate age..

    So please tell me.... where have we got an extra 6 billion people from in a hundred years..?
    Not having it sorry... the numbers are nowhere near what people are told they are. More lies..
     
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    Are you really saying that you trust the records from 110 years ago, plus some dodgy maths based off assumptions over the records today?

    I’m not even going to touch your comments about women or abortions, other than to say I’m glad I live in this era than that of the 1950s or earlier.
     
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    What you're failing to take into account is that wars have raged since the dawn of man. Just because you hear more about the two world wars (because our living relatives lived through it) doesn't mean that there weren't wars of similar numbers in the past.
    Flu isn't a new thing, it's killed people for years as has cancer. Cancer is diagnosed more these days but that doesn't mean it kills more.

    You also need to take into account the huge advances in medicine and the vastly superior life expectancy. 100 years ago my life expectancy was in the 40s, now it's in the 80s. That alone explains the UK population being double what it was in 1900
     
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    Hahaha this is the best conspiracy yet.
     
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    I'm now convinced the population of the world is 37.

    Sorry for getting a bit carried away with me figures, like.
     
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    That's because meat stimulates the part of the brain used for mathematics.

    Absolute ******** by the wsy but that's the kind of fact I reckon people would believe if I said it with enough confidence
     
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    I too have a question for Vegies/vegans.... why do you always try to make veggie food meat like clones.... veggie BURGERS... veggie SAUSAGES... Soya beef mince etc etc etc.
     
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    Because I ate meat for 35 of 41 years, and I like how it tastes, just not what it is.

    Something similar to it, without the animal-suffering, means I can eat things which are vaguely familiar: though I have started consuming a lot of tofu, too, for example.
     
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    I don’t have an issue with anyone eating what they want. My friend once became a special fruitarian where he only ate things that actually fell off the tree or plant. He couldn’t pick them... it didn’t last long..

    As for Veganism, I don’t understand the reason behind not eating eggs.

    On the other note, the population spike will do more damage to this planet than we ever could by eating meat...
     
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    Battery farming is pretty vile. But I genuinely don't see how anyone except a completely sanctimonious ******** could have a moral issue with eating the eggs produced by a hen who clucks happily around someone's garden. I saw a genuine debate on Facebook once where a newly vegan guy was asking if he could eat an egg which had been abandoned by one of his rescue hens. Some of the justifications why he "couldn't" were absolutely absurd. "It's not yours to take" (like the hen gives a ****) "If you're worried about wasting it you should put it on the compost" (What actual difference will this make? I genuinely have no idea.)
     
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    The planet could reasonably support over 10 billion people, if we treated it with care. The population spike and the things that people do, including, but not just eating too much meat, all contribute. Apparently one of the most damaging things is burning wood, which is still something that many people, especially in the developing world, do every day for warmth and to cook with. Good luck stopping that in a hurry. But making people more responsible with their food choices and limit their meat consumption is also something that we should be aiming at. Nobody needs to eat meat every day.
     
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    I’m sure it could, but that’s saying that all the people entering the world are forward thinking conservationists.... I’d guess most are not. Most of these 10 million people will want phones, cars, houses, plastic goods, power, heat, etc. This gets less sustainable as the population gets higher. The farting of cows was said to lead to global warming... what about the farts of another 3 billion people? It’s a worrying time for the planets current ecological state in my opinion.
     
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    I agree totally. I don't think anything like enough attention is being paid to population growth. However I don't think that should stop us addressing other impacts. I don't see it as an either or.
     
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    Veal substitute?

     
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    If I became a vegan giving up eggs would probably be the hardest thing. In terms of sustainability free range eggs are as I understand it one of the best forms of protein.
     
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    Ar very clever
    No .. the difference is that some people believe what they are told and some don't... without any real evidenced and not just people's say so. In this case there's
    non
    .. and actually the reverse
     
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    I hope you feel the same way about the theory of gravity and float the **** away.
     

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