Interesting Financial Analysis Of Prem & Championship Clubs

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    https://twitter.com/vysyble/status/1234064112885358592 ESBE3xFWsAASALi.png

    It uses their own measure of "Economic Profit" over 5 years of accounts (so 2014-2018, for most clubs, which means it largely pre-dates our current owners) but it's eye-opening to see how few clubs in both leagues have a positive figure in the list (of which we are one of them). https://vysyble.com/economic-profit

    Ultimately, it shows how much of a ticking time-bomb football club finance is in general. It's a well-known phenomenon, but it's fascinating to see it laid out in such a stark way.
     
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    If we can stave off relegation for the next three seasons we'll probably be elected into the Premier League by being the only League club still trading
     
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    One or two clubs need point deduction
     
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    Among others, you have to wonder how Wigan can remain a football club for much longer with a massive deficit, overpaying players they can’t afford and relatively small gates.
    These figures highlight to me that although a lot on here think that our owners are the devil( and they have made a few transfer mistakes i.e pinnock), the biggest threat to the future of success to clubs like ours is the unwillingness of the efl to implement their own ffp rules and the appropriate punishment. This comes in the shape of such as Birmingham and Bolton staying up at our expense with players they couldn’t afford, Leeds staying up on Ross McCormacks goals (40k a week they didn’t have), clubs buying our players and upping their wages they couldn’t afford(winnall, scowen, villa at the time etc), Leicester successful gamble with reaching the premier league
    There will be a million more examples that people brighter than me can remember
    This inaction by the efl will kill this level of football in the long run and I’m pleased we’re not in the sewer with them.
     
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    They’re just waiting for an unfashionable club to mete out their harshest punishments.
     
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    The EFL will be happy when it has all the clubs it needs. It wants the likes of Sunderland, Ipswich, Portsmouth and Coventry in the Championship at the expense of your Wigan, Barnsley, Luton's of this world. Sheff Wed, Derby and Birmingham are big clubs that are needed to attract T.V audiences. It wouldn't surprise me if the Premier League becomes a franchise once it gets the teams it wants. It would much rather have Nottingham Forest, Leeds and West Brom than Brighton, Bournemouth.
     
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    Interesting that the club who operate the spreadsheet better than we do, Brentford, are in so much debt.
     
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    £169m Fulham?? Imagine any other business with those losses over 5 years. Christ almighty
     
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    I’ve always wondered this. When any lower league city club play on tv in the fa cup for instance, the commentators/pundits always make a big fuss of reckoning clubs should be“back where they belong in the premier league”, a sentiment echoed by fans of some of our deluded neighbours.
    If every club got “back to where they belong” the premier league would have about 35 teams in it.
     
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    I can see a top tier split into two lots of 18 teams a Premier League 1 and 2 with a minor relegation between the two and no relegation below that into the "Football League".
     
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    Shocking figures, particularly Wigan, twice the losses of the Fowls.
     
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    Don’t forget they had PL & Parachute payments in that too
     
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    A lot of teams already want that
     
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    Based on that any owner wanting to make money should be looking at Hull with nearly £10 million a year profit.
     
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    PL money and PP and still made that much loss? I'm far, far from a financial expert but that much deficit in 5 years? FFP should be looking into it.
     
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    Didnt our owners make a bid for Hull and were rejected before moving on to us?
     
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    Believe so
     

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