Shocking statistic

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  1. Don

    Donny-Red Well-Known Member

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    Donny-Red, Mar 22, 2020
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    Never suggested anything of the sort.

    However, the media is using mortality rates of three different socio-demographic make ups for their headlines.

    Perhaps rather than using those stats to create a fear mongering headline we could drill down a bit deeper into the numbers and use that information to tailor an a more reasoned approach other than people are dying quicker here than Italy.
     
    DEETEE, Mar 23, 2020
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    Hopefully after the Cobra meeting we will be told we are locking down. Two days ago we had the same deaths after 14 days as Italy and now we aren't quite as bad. They will be quashed much sooner if the government did more.
     
    dreamboy3000, Mar 23, 2020
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    That's odd because I've just heard in the news that we have MORE deaths than Spain and Italy did at the same point
     
    SuperTyke, Mar 23, 2020
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    16 days on from death number 1 we are 128 behind Italy after being level on 233 after 14. Still sad how big the daily numbers are in Italy, but I hope they are taking some comfort from the back to back daily drops.......



    For quality of life we are 12th and Italy 21st......

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

    The worry is when numbers reach nothing will it come back again when life goes back to normal.
     
    dreamboy3000, Mar 23, 2020
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    I thought we were quite a way behind but they definitely said the opposite on the news which made me think there had been a big jump
     
    SuperTyke, Mar 23, 2020
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    dreamboy3000, Mar 24, 2020
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    I have just seen this statistic which is sobering as the number of U.K. cases accelerates up the curve: 14% of Corona virus cases in Spain relate to health workers. I am by no means a fan of Bojo but he is quite correct in insisting on draconian measures. Some people will just not listen. A number of these may die but they will ensure that plenty more people will die prematurely.
     
    Didcot Red, Mar 24, 2020
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    Where have you seen that people are dying quicker here than Italy? I was under the impression our death numbers are similar but a fortnight behind. In fact everywhere I look that’s the same bloody story.
     
    Donny-Red, Mar 24, 2020
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    After our figures for today we are 209 behind Italy at the same time around thirty odd percent less. We aren't thankfully as bad as Italy but we are terrible compared to Germany.
     
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    Don’t take one days figured to mean anything, the trend over time is very close. (Ignoring their early growth spurt that we didn’t suffer)
    And to create a percentage based on one day in the midst of an exponential curve is mathematically massively misleading.
     
    Donny-Red, Mar 24, 2020
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    I saw a quite astounding statistic from a professor of epidemiology. If, as at present each infected person infects 2.5 people, in a week that means a chain that leads to 500 infected. If that is reduced to 1.5 persons infected the 500 drops to 15. If that is happening we could see a gap opening up with Italy, if we all follow the rules
     
    Darfield138, Mar 24, 2020
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    We won't see any difference in our trajectory for a couple of weeks. The majority of the people who are going to die in the next couple of weeks will have been exposed before the recent measures.
     
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    Eighty four deaths today. Twenty one of those at a single NHS Trust in London.
    It's very worrying. Matt Hancock just been on the news calling for 250,000
    volunteers to help front line NHS staff deal with the crisis. Good luck with that 'owd lad.
     
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    The statistic they should be highlighting is the 36 year old with no underlying health conditions who is critically ill in hospital. That could be any one of us.
     
    Redhelen, Mar 24, 2020
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    There was also a 28 year old Footballer who is now recovering but needed Intensive care to pull through
    The thing that some people are missing is that even though for most people under 50 the death rate is quite low - even 0.2% of a big number is still a big number
    Im getting to the age where the odds aren't quite as good I should be fine but I was never a fan of Russian Roulette. It sounds quite unpleasant for many who survive as well.
     
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    Mine are going to shorten when I have my birthday next week too!
     
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    Just my opinion, but the government have seriously over-played the "most people will hardly know they've got it" aspect. It may be factually correct, but it's led to ridiculous levels of complacency and non-compliance.
     
    Old Goat, Mar 24, 2020
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    Not me, I'm 34
     
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