Workplace inspections

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  1. Jimmy viz

    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    They have no influence in certain sectors such as Factories, construction, farming and schools usually considered high risk they do in others. Again you do not seem able to grasp this. So what precisely so you not understand?

    Basically you attempted to mislead and I pulled you up on it so you then doubled down instead of holding your hands up.
     
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    Johnson lied again don't try and make excuses for the serial liar. He said on the spot inspection will take place, but they won't and why won't they happen simple, because after 10 years of tory ideological funding cuts to the state's infrastructure there aren't the staff available at either the HSE or local councils. It's quite a simple equation but the tories just don't get it and never have if you want good public services you cannot stave them of money but the tory ideology sees any money spent on public services as a waste of money because theyd rather cut taxes for the well off than fund public services adequately.
     
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    Yep I agree . They have made a right **** shower out of it but it’s as you say when lives are at risk you bring in the best people and they havnt done that .
    This shoving the blame onto buisness is to make the buisness responsible for govt inaction .
    People meaning about Tory Bashing but we’ve had plenty of ammunition .
    Last time we had a crisis like this we had a National govt with all the best people , I’m not saying Boris should have put his Govt into coalition but the least he should have done is brought better people into his govt other than the **** shower of nodding dogs .
     
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    you tried to make a point. you got something wrong. once it was pointed out you tried to argue a point. you told us all the grow up and be positive as if that'll fix it.


    i see a pattern emerging here.
     
  5. Marlon

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    How many attempts did he have ?
    By the way it’s a socialist ideal . is that it just the furlough ? What’s your opinion of the govt directive of sending patients into care homes from hospital with Covid ?
     
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  6. Dav

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    Think he'd fit in well with our current cabinet. Once he's had his arse handed to him, he disappears for a few days until the bruised ego feels better, bit like Boris really.
     
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    You are correct. It is a world crisis. Some countries have had minimal deaths, and life has returned nearly to normal - although you might have seen the thread(s) about the game in South Korea yesterday with sex dolls in the crowd! Our county has been too slow to make decisions, leading to more deaths and significantly more economic damage while treating the press briefings as party political broadcasts and lying to cover their mistakes.
     
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    I've noticed him doing things like this a lot. He announces that something will happen and just hopes to god that people manage to put it in place, often with no guidance released until after it has been sorted or a few hours before it is due to be. It's like with schools, he said home schooling would happen and thanks to schools it did but no guidance was issued, he said free school meals would be available but schools had to make their own arrangements before the scheme was eventually put in place, he said schools will reopen on 1st June and this time there is some guidance (sort of) but he's just hoping that schools will manage to magically make it happen. I've seen all sorts of ideas on here about using secondary schools, giving all kids devices etc. and saying schools should think outside the box but not realising that they have NO money. If by some miracle funding was to be released then it needs to be done immediately, not an announcement but when you look into it it's not available to claim for months. There are lots of things schools could do, I've seen some really good suggestions, but with no money it's just impossible, literally impossible, no matter how much parents and teachers may will it to happen. Give schools the money and I've no doubt they would sort something out but it needs to be enough and in good time.
     
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    The new Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020 gives local councils the right to close any business that does not follow COVID-19 secure regulations. The council Can and Does have the power
     
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    I started my Public Services career in the Health Department of the then Doncaster
    County Borough Council. I can confirm , it was the Council's responsibility for the well
    being and safety of any /all employees and that that is still the case to this very day.

    We operated within the guidelines of the Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act 1963.
    I don't know for certain, but I would imagine that large tracts of that particular legislation
    have subsequently been dovetailed into any prevailing Acts such as the Health and Safety
    at Work Act (1974).
     
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    But is it saving jobs or is it allowing some business owners / bosses to run a government funded experiment into how few staff they can run their business with and once it's ended mass redundancies will follow. My wife has been told she's furloughed until October but the business she works for is functioning normally but with much reduced back office staff numbers and much stress and extra work being piled on the staff kept working but working remotely from home where nobody can monitor the situation.
     
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    Issue is will be the lack of staff adequately trained to raise issues formally.
    The council and HSE are very thin on the ground, union H&S reps don't always get listened to straight away or employers don't recognise unions.
    I've already seen some government departments gearing up to potentially break their own policies and law.
    Unfortunately there are quite a lot of crap bosses and owners.
    Like in most cases it'll take an extreme; a death, a corporate manslaughter charge and a coroner's court to accept faults being made. But we live in an age when even that could be downplayed and spin applied.

    Schools due to open on June 1st today have been given guidance. Quite a few mainly nurseries will struggle to adapt premises in time. What a shambles.
    How'd have thought keeping 3-5 year olds apart would be so tough?!
     
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    But Barnsley Council have suffered the biggest government funding cuts of any council question is they may have the power but do they have the staff available to weld that power. You cannot do the work if you have no money to employ people to do the work.
     
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    What’s your opinion of the govt directive of sending patients into care homes from hospital with Covid ?[/QUOTE]
    No ?
    Thought not tbh.
     
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    Also doesn't help when workplace union activitists get turned down time for H&S training due to anti union and political reasons.
     
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    In your experience DR who would be ultimately responsible for sending diseased patients from a Hospital into a care home knowing what the consequences could be ?
    The govt seem to be kicking this into the long grass and it’s supporters are citing Tory Bashing.
    I would imagine a lot of relatives whether politically influenced or not are really angry at this decision.
     
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    No ?
    Thought not tbh.[/QUOTE]
    Keep changing the subject, and eventually you may drop on a subject where you have a valid point, when you are proved wrong.

    Are you Corbyn in disguise? - has your brother been released yet ?
     
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    I think you'll find that instruction would come directly from the Department for Health (Whitehall) ultimately signed off by one Matthew Hancock, countersignatures of 2x relevant junior ministers. That's common practice.
     
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    Keep changing the subject, and eventually you may drop on a subject where you have a valid point, when you are proved wrong.

    Are you Corbyn in disguise? - has your brother been released yet ?[/QUOTE]
    Answer the question.
     
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    Keep changing the subject, and eventually you may drop on a subject where you have a valid point, when you are proved wrong.

    Are you Corbyn in disguise? - has your brother been released yet ?[/QUOTE]
    Ok cheers , as expected . Can’t wait for your next post decrying Tory bashing and not being nice to this cuddly govt .
     
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