10m now unemployed or on furlough

Wonder why.

 

Only the ones with "elderly" relatives or people who are "elderly". Who'd have thought.... lovely person.

 

No I said CN#T

 

It’s nowhere near as black and white as you make it sound.

I still have yet to hear a single realistic way that option 1 could be implemented without overloading hospitals and/or leaving vulnerable people without food and care. I’d love to hear it.

 

No it isn’t, they will squeeze anything where they can. Be it reduced shop hours, increased responsibilities, ‘secondments’ so they can get someone doing a managers role without paying extra

 

It’s coming for you and it’s coming for me, try to embrace it. As soon as you do you become far less angry

 

No its not black and white and yet that is exactly how it's been treated. Black. Everyone dies. White. Everyone stays in their house. There has been no grey at all.

Why would elderly people have no food? The only reason the supermarkets can't handle the demand for online grocery shopping is that everyone has been treated the same. Had the rest been allowed to shop properly then the elderly would have had the free capacity.

 

I'll add.

I've worked throughout.

Am I a key worker? ... No

Majority of our business has been furloughed and they have made up the 80% to 100%. Fair play. But they have just had an extended holiday on full pay.

Meanwhile I put in 4 days holiday (for reasons i wont divulge) whilst the majority of the company are furloughed and on full pay.

Work that one out...

I'm hoping when it's all sorted, the ones who have worked throughout are given some kind of recompense for it!!

Meanwhile, I'm pestered left right and centre from those not working to keep my kids active, take them out and educate them (while living alone with the 2 brats) and am constantly reminded that women are the ones looking after everything.

Fack off. Some blokes live on there own, continue to work, and are raising kids on their own. Yes ME.

Rant over

 

When you have a Tory government who have openly said they plan to remove workers rights and to remove rights from the human rights act coupled with millions of unemployed people that gives company owners a hell of a lot of leeway to force their employees to work unreasonably hard which means they can operate on lower staff levels. Not because they had too many before but because they can force less people to work harder.

To look at it another way. A football team has 11 players. If one gets sent off the other 10 are forced to work harder. You wouldn't say that there were too many players before though.

 

I agree.

Very harsh that those who've worked throughout will no doubt be paying this debt too.

 

I’m sorry, but you’re kidding yourself. Even little Rishi admitted today that this is will be a recession the like of which we’ve never known.

 

But this just doesn't happen
Certainly not in food retail.
Customer service is key in driving all kpis.
If, at the moment I can only man half the tills because we have to social distance, I can get away with customers queuing, cos it's like that everywhere and the customer accepts it, to varying degrees. When things are back to normality and .everyone wants serving now, we certainly won't be cutting staff. At the moment there's no training, no meetings, no performance reviews, no career progression, it's all on hold, all these things are labour intensive and will start up again when normality resumes.
There's a recession coming and one thing people will always do it's eat, last recession was boom time for certain food retailers.
It's not just about putting beans on shelves.

 

Exactly which is another point that hasn't come up yet.

We are going to be hammered under the usual tory mantra of "debts need to be paid" when the irony is this tory government have added more to the national debt than anyone else.

Somehow in this, it's all labours fault. Apparently

 

The concept of retirement will be a pipe dream for anyone currently under the age of 45 except for a very fortunate minority of public sector workers.

 

people who have been furloughed have no choice. I had to furlough a couple of people one of them was in tears and devastated one income didn’t know how they would cope I’ve rarely felt worse.?

 

You get your pay, for doing your job. Seriously mate, in 12 months you’ll be doing a jig of joy if it’s still the case.

I’m working full time for an enforced pay cut. That’s full time work for 90% of pay. I’ll tell you what though, I wouldn’t swap with those on furlough - even the ones getting made up to 100% - for a gold pig. Because at a minimum 25% of them are actually redundant, they just don’t know it yet. I don’t want those odds for 6 months drinking in the garden.

 

Tw@. I'll be as angry as I like. Accept your circumstances and I'll accept mine. Do NOT assume you know me and do not speak for me.

 

Don’t really understand this reply, not sure I’ve posted anywhere that people don’t need to eat?

You go into many high street shops and you will find a shop manager and an assistant manager who are paid by ‘salary’ rather than paid per hour. The reason they do this is that when the hours provided to run the shop don’t work those staff on “salary” pick up the extra. It’s free labour for the company and to the worker it’s better than a zero hour contract where you can’t rely on the hours you get.

You go into any call centre and you will find regular staff who are “trainee” managers/team leaders or who have been “seconded” They are doing the managers job just for the lower wage. Again all about saving money, there are thousands of examples where this happens up and down the country and as the recession hits this will only become more obvious.

 

I absolutely believe that at some point in the press briefing the Chief Medical Officer will pull his face off Scooby Doo style to reveal Harold Shipman has been advising the Government all along

 

I bow to your inside knowledge, been doing this for 30 years, never realised I knew nowt.