What the hell is going off in

Nobody has tried victim blaming

 

And if you show some proof I’d accept it

 

As often; your posts can be interpreted in ways you didn’t intend

 

To be honest I don't care what you accept or not. You are clearly capable of using the internet so feel free to aim your browser at the most used internet site there is

 

Absolutely. That’s the underlying issue without a doubt. That’s what I was referring to with my last paragraph.

However, i don’t think the race issue should be ignored (I’m not saying that you are ignoring it, by the way). I can’t find the specific statistic now, but I believe there’s also a disproportionate number of police brutality against black people that do not result in a conviction, compared to white (and it’s very low conviction rate for white victims to start with)

Basically it can be summed up as “there’s a massive police brutality and brutality conviction problem and it’s even worse against black people”

 

Yes I've seen that before. I could be mistaken but I think the actual levels of reported brutality aren't much difference per 100,000 people but the conviction rate is different. That suggests that the frontline officers themselves aren't racist, just absolute bellends but that those doing the investigating may well have a racial bias

 

To be fair I have just watched the video for the first time and even on the wind up there is no defending that.

 

Glad tha's seen it, and sense and humanity. Our police take ****, we'd never do that. lovely person needs a good stretch in gaol.

 

It has to be a straight up murder charge. It's highly disturbing that this officer has now killed enough people that under the definition of the word he would be considered a serial killer.

 

Think you’d struggle to prove the intention, be a manslaughter charge I would have thought

 

You're right it's not an easy one but the horrible ******* did it in a state which makes it easier to press for murder charges than you may think.

In Minnesota they have third degree murder as well as first (premeditated) and second (not premeditated).
Third degree is when the person doesn't necessarily intend to kill anyone but acts in a way where they don't care if they do. For example a drug dealer who sells dodgy drugs which kill someone. He didn't intend to kill them but didn't care that they could.
In this case it could be argued that he didn't intend to kill the man but in refusing to get off his neck when he was told the victim couldn't breathe he was acting in a way that shows he had no regard for the man's life.

Alternatively as you say the charge is manslaughter and I think it would be voluntarily manslaughter in this case. The officers emotional state at the time due to fear etc meant that he killed the man but wasn't thinking clearly.

Then there's the lesser involuntary manslaughter which is an accident

 

Think it will be a toss up between the two manslaughter charges and will probably get away with involuntary, knowing the yanks.

I dont know the full ins and outs by any means but i reckon if it can be proven he acted negligently i.e. that pin/hold is not a taught one then perhaps he will be up **** creek? Certainly hope so!

 

Maybe not if he was repeatedly saying he cant breathe and others were saying you're killing him.

 

If it's not race based where are all the videos of white people dying unnecessarily at the hands of police?

 

They're there on the internet.

 

I’m Totally bewildered if I’ve understood you right.

 

I found these 2 incidents which were only a year apart. Race certainly seems to be a factor in treatment of the incidents. Its particularly horrifying if you watch the video of the Castile incident:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Philando_Castile
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond

 

Someone's had a telling off...

 

American police are taught twice a year via training that applying pressure to the neck is a no go area for exactly that reason. He should be in jail for murder.

 

Longish post but I would appreciate comments to see if I am the only one who thinks this ..... but I have a theory, albeit unscientific and controversial..

My belief is that eugenics comes into play within the structure of U.S. society, but before you scream 'racist' it is not in the way you think.

America's population after the decimation of the indigenous tribes derives mainly from four different gene pools.
1 American Indians, largely confined to areas 'generously?!!' provided by the U.S Govt via various treaties. Poorly funded and resourced with poor infrastructure they still suffer.
2 European migrants (many escaping from religious persecution, or people e.g. Irish, attempting to escape poverty and/or starvation and, especially in the early days of the 'colonisation, convicts.
3 Mexican/Hispanic people from the South
4 Descendants of slaves that were 'imported' in huge numbers and who came largely from Africa.

Of the four categories it is the latter one stands out. Whilst three of them were a general mix of people, often poor, relatively uneducated, it was the slaves that were not. When captured they were initially 'selected' by slavers for physical attributes . They endured unimaginable conditions of hardship and brutality during transportation with many dying along the way. Only the strongest survived only to suffer incredible hardships of work in the fields. Women were selected for 'breeding' and most of those that survived until emancipation after the American Civil war only did so through physical strengths, intelligence(making themselves invaluable to their owners above and beyond the original roles as field hands or a combination of both.
IMHO, the only reason that Non-whites are disadvantaged is they have been subjugated... apartheid, forced into ghettos, deprived of education, civil rights, job opportunities . For decades the whites subconsiciously feared the dormant power of the descendants of slaves and is one of the reasons segregation was heavily enforced. Given a level playing field, again only IMO, non-whites can excel and often do. That is demonstrated by how successful they have been in areas where they were allowed freedoms e.g. Sports and entertainment. Racism is still a major part of Americas psyche but gradually things have changed- nowhere near quick enough, but there are now non-white lawyers,judges, Doctors surgeons, an ex-US president (far more presidential than the two or three before him and certainly the one since!!) who was largely defeated by an intransigent Republican opposition hell-bent on preserving the status Quo to protect the elite.
EDIT: (Posted in error before completion)..
In summary. The fact that in terms of the great 'melting pot' that is the population, no one race is genetically superior. Conditions, both natural and imposed, cultural and ideological differences are what shape societies. Nothing to do with race (Again IMHO).