Disparities in the risk and outcomes of COVID-19 report released a few minutes ago

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    The one I took particular interest in. Due to incompetence that defies belief. Was care homes. 2.3 x the expected rate of deaths. The highest but yet most obvious failing.
     
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    Better get them chicken shops shut then...
     
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    How about the high number of people who contract Covid in hospital? (We all know hospitals are a perfect breeding ground for infections).
    How many of those missed procedures have literally saved lives?
     
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    I reckon those in need of a hip/knee op, with blood in their passage, who have found a lump etc would have rather took the risk and be seen sooner instead of risking their situation getting much worse.
     
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    I reckon if I needed a knee replacement I’d likely have several high risk factors and I’d rather stay at home on the ibuprofen, than go into the riskiest environment possible.

    if I had blood in my poo I also think I’d likely have had discussions with professionals that would have informed a sensible decision.

    I believe that whilst the NHS has shifted a massive resource, it hasn’t ceased doing all other work. But what do I know?
     
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    8 million people are expected to be on the waiting list for hospital care. The next five years or so is going to be horrible as I can't see anything but a rise in deaths from every single vital organ. Whatever the 5 years average is for deaths due to cancer, liver issues, lung problems etc I expect in 2025 every figure will be higher than it currently is from putting off vital life saving treatment.
     
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    Come on though, you can’t seriously be arguing that the provision of non Covid services has been satisfactory and consequence-free - if so then we’ve been spending billions on needless services for the past few years.
     
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    I’m not arguing that.

    I’m saying there’s 2 sides to this and the side often ignored when people are ‘making a point’ about all the growing queues is that hospital isn’t a great place for sick people to be right now.

    That’s a reasonable view and I’m sorry if it doesn’t translate into the kind of binary argument the internet thrives on.
     
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    I’m not pretending the situation is perfect but nor is it binary - see above.
     
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    Wow, what a lovely individual you are.
     
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    It would be a great place to be if the nightingale hospitals we spend crazy money on were used.

    Hospitals wouldn't be breeding grounds for covid-19 if covid-19 patients were in the hospitals built for covid-19 treatment instead of scattered around barnsley hospital.
     
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    That’s great in theory; only 2 issues:
    1 it relies on 100% accurate triage to keep all Covid patients out of the non Nightingale hospitals. You can’t open hospitals up to the most vulnerable patients whilst there’s any chance they’re in danger.

    2 it assumes that we could feasibly staff the Nightingales, we managed to build them miraculously but inventing thousands of nurses and doctors wasn’t so easy.
     
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    Yes that's as I understand it that there aren't enough nurses and doctors. Makes the building of them completely pointless
     

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