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  1. Stephen Dawson

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    When we went on family holidays me and my two sisters went to family pubs that were happy for us to be there until late. My parents would send us back to the flat or house we'd rented with our grandparents if they wanted to get merry and bring us some supper back. Otherwise we'd all go back to the digs together and get a bite to eat together. We'd done this on family holidays from me being 7 to not arsed anymore.
     
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    I agree with the hole in the story but I don't think the timeline was correct.

    This is goimg to make me sound completely negligent but I've lost my kids twice. One time in a theme park and one time where they'd fallen asleep at home. I know everyone reacts differently but I didn't recognise anything about my reaction compared to theirs.
     
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    My mum was in hysterics when we lost my sister Emma when she was 6 years old at Yarmouth races. It turned out she'd bent down collecting used betting slips for a second. Luckily she was taken to the tote office.
     
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    I see your point - but people react differently in different situations.

    If they had killed her in an accident, they would have had 3 small windows to dispose of the body (horrible way of putting it, but couldn't think of anything else). Firstly, before they went out - which was broad daylight with guests everywhere. Secondly, later that night. But with the alarm raised and with staff and guests looking for her, this would have been impossible. Thirdly, in a subsequent day. But with media everywhere, if Gerry McCann suddenly went for a drive with a dead body it would have stood out a mile.

    They probably went dining all week, leaving the kids medicated. By the end of the week, they're probably a little more complacent. Coupled with a glass of wine or two and they don't think anything of it. Then when the unthinkable happens, they're realise they're fcked.
     
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    Whatever happened they are ultimately responsible for her (likely/assumed) death. I'm sure other parents have left kids and got away with it. That doesn't make it right. I don't have a ounce of sympathy for them, all I have is sympathy for the poor little girl. Who knows how awful her final moments were, all because of neglect by those who should have been keeping her safe. To my mind they are scum of the highest order. Yes they will have to live with it, but that isn't the basis of our justice system. They cared so little about her safety that they risked her life so they could go a meal and drinks. I don't trust grief and remorse to be sufficient punishment for the crime.
     
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    I suspect single-mother Karen from Cudworth would have been pilloried in the papers for leaving her kids alone in a hotel.

    When we went away with our kid, eating family meals was as much as part of it as anything else. We wouldn't have dreamed of going out for food and leaving her in the hotel unattended. If we do have something to do, we arranged a babysitter.
     
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    I think the worst thing about it was there were babysitting services available, using the same staff that ran the kids club she attended. I hope she is found, whatever the rights and wrongs of decisions made that night, more so for her younger siblings more than anything because this must be a massive burden on their shoulders.
     
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    So not abart Grant and Kelly then.
     
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    I think that's what I said wasn't it?
     
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    I don't think that would be a valid reason not to charge someone with child neglect. It would be presuming that they have suffered, for instance. I am not for one minute saying they haven't, but they have gained financially from this.

    A drunken husband pushing his wife down the stairs in an argument and killing her might have been accidental and he may feel remorse afterwards and live with it for the rest of his life. Doesn't mean he shouldn't face criminal charges. He may feign remorse. The law shouldn't and doesn't work like that.
     
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    So much to say about this, but on the point quoted, there is plenty in the official Police Report that covers this scenario. Google the car left with the the doors and windows left open. Google the strange case of Gerry and the Fridge. Google the DNA found in the empty apartment close by (the one with a dodgy fridge). Google the unexplained mileage on the hire car. Google the strange case of the trip over the border to Huelva. Google Eddie and Keela.

    I'd implore anyone interested in the case to read the official police report, which was clear, concise and only hampered by the FCO and those in high places. Why that happened is anybodys guess, but contrary to popular belief the investigation was not carried out by an incompetent oaf. Senor Amaral also identified Christian Breukener (the German) last year as the patsy he expected to be charged to bring the charade to an end. I await his Epstein-like demise and confession .......
     
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    Oh yes, the character assassination of the police was wrong.

    But the Gerry and the fridge thing? The theory is that her body was stored in a fridge and then disposed later? Is that right? But surely there's no way he could have done anything any later than the morning after. He couldn't take a dump without photographers following him round. There's no way he manages to sneak off and do what he needed to.

    If the parents did it, then they would have needed to have everything sorted in an instant. As soon as the alarm is raised, they've no chance. And time wouldn't have allowed them to do that on that night.
     
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    Harsh as it may be, without a body the parents will.always be under suspicion and the conspiracy theories will get wilder.
     
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    The timeline is crucial and that is the thing that's up in the air with no reconstruction taking place.
     
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    People on here are experts on everything,yet the only evidence they have is from news outlets which they also accuse of being false news when it suits.
     
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    Which bits? There is the Amaral book, the interviews we've seen on telly with the Macanns and others, Kate Macanns book, plus plenty on the web from psychologists analysing interviews.
     
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    All the evidence that surfaces looks shady.
     
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    I'll stick my neck on the block and say if that had happened in this country. As flawed as the system is. The Mccanns would have been questioned more vigorously than they were by Portuguese officials.
     
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    They were questioned rigorously. Kate McCann refused to answer 48 questions put to her by the police.
     
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    Why?
     

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