In a study of US traffic stops by police it was found that black people were stopped at a greater rate than white people. Interestingly, during the hours of darkness when it is more difficult to see the race of a driver before pulling a car over, the difference in stopping rates between races reduced. Once pulled over black citizens were twice as likely to be searched as white citizens.
One Big thing that all this blm movement brings is the Fact that racism is still rife in all aspects. Eg In opportunities. I WAS. One of those that used to think the best man for job. Should always get the role. But it became apparent that irrespective of being the best man. Social background became a major factor. Be it BAME or lower class background it is much more difficult to get a position. In certain companies. ( Privelaged chosing those from a privalaged background. Not all, but it’s still rife) Some Companies still follow The diversity route to save face. It shouldn’t be followed. It should be a given. To use the term to promote an image is just not enough. Take colour/ethnicity/social standing out of the equation altogether. My company shout out about their diversity rules and pay the living wage. Whilst it’s getting there there’s a difference between living and being able to enjoy the spoils that most of us can afford . to go along with just a living wage is not enough.
That statistic does not prove a point only a fact. The fact that you are 3.5 times more likely to be shot If black by police is more relevant. The fact you couldn’t find anything else of relevance let’s you down. I’ve never met anyone yet that doesn’t pick things out to suit an agenda but there are lots that study all the reports. Take Barnsley for example. Brexit results and the election results were used as facts. But if you study em there’s massive variations in the stats.
Back in the late 90s I went to work for my Uncle and his son in law. We needed a new office controller in Manchester so advertised. When the applications came in they routinely chucked every single one who didn't have an english sounding name in the bin. I was disgusted, walked out very soon after and never spoke to that side of the family again as all of them were equally racist. It might be 20 years ago but there's not been that much of an advance in enlightenment since then.
On a similar theme. But not race. An ex colleague went self employed. To try and make a better living for himself. (fitter) Then 15 yrs later decided to apply for a role back with the company. Apprentice of year. Superb fitter. For 15 yrs previously with the company. I found out he didn’t get the role because of aptitude. I confronted 1 of the interviewers A rookie( who didn’t know the man from Adam.) and said “wtf. He failed cos of aptitude” and he coloured up. I then asked him who else was on the interview and he told me. I said. “say no more.” And he coloured up even more. The other person was one of the biggest arseholes it’s been my displeasure to come across and indeed managed the interviewee at one stage. And like me and others the interviewee would not bow down to his pathetic methods of management. Biggest conman I’ve ever come across in my working life. In other depts. he was blatantly taking backhanders. But they wouldn’t report him. ( those that did with proof were fobbed off) If I’d have caught him he would have been out of the door. another incident re interviews. 2 men were sorting through the candidates. In their applications. 1 was just chucking em ont floor. And the other asked him why. His answer they’re from the mining industry. So he was then asked what he thought about certain individuals that were already employed. His reply “our best men” then it was pointed out they were all ex mining. Picked the forms back up.
Right wing thugs defending Churchill's statue with a big swastika tattoo, Why? because he saved us from the Nazi's. Fck me sideways.
It's amazing what some people can get away with at work. My last job there was a man and wife who got away with bullying all and sundry for years. The female half used the threat to accuse someone of sexual harassment on more than one occasion. Like you say complaints were fobbed off or handled half heartedly for years before they eventually ran out of rope.
Until the majority allow the minority to speak out for them. Because of fear of retribution . It won’t change. Not in my lifetime. Ps if I’d ran out of rope I’d have got some more to hang em wi.( management i mean)
They say it's better to be lucky than good, so I always throw half of the applications into the shredder without even looking at them.
An interesting thread - racism takes different forms - some are easier to deal with than others. The racist chanters in the Pont end can be barred from Oakwell - the statues linked to earlier racism can be removed. Possibly the hardest form of racism to tackle is, as earlier posters have alluded to, the racism that occurs in Boardrooms - Senior management meetings/interviews. Why are so few senior managers black - why so few black football managers. It's not because they're not good enough for the job it's because of 'hidden' racism. It is very easy to hide behind the notion that 'the best person should get the job' - if someone from a minority group is able to do the job then give him/her the job. My guess is that it will take Legislation to redress the inequalities which exist.
Taken from Twitter so I'm not claiming it to be gospel. There are 191 million white people in the USA, 42 million black people. If you divide 191m by 42m you get 4.55 - that's 4.55 white people for every black person. In 2019 there were 370 white people killed by the police. 370 divided by 4.5 give s a figure of 82, so statistically that is how many black people would have been killed by police if all things were equal and proportionate. The actual number of black people killed was 235. If you divide that by 82 (the number you should have expected to have been killed) you get 2.87 - this means per capita that you are almost 3 time more likely to be killed by US police if you are black.
Those stats are incorrect. Over 400 white people were shot and killed by police in America in 2019 and 259 black people. On top of that you would have deaths caused by other means. Not that that really takes away from your point regarding the percentages or anything although I think it is an extremely over simplistic look at it as it doesn't take into account why they were killed or why they were having more interactions with police etc. For example of the 250 black people shot by police 229 were armed and a further 6 had an imitation weapon. That's 94% Of the 403 white people shot by the police 355 were armed and a further 14 were carrying an imitation weapon. That's 91.56% White women account for around 60% of women in America and accounted for 60.5% of all women shot and killed by police last year. Black women account for roughly 13% of women and 13% of women killed. Hispanic account for around 17% of women and around 17% of women shot and killed so in regards to females the statistics seem to match almost perfectly the ratio of people to people killed which begs the question why are police killing the 'right' ratio of black women but too many black men? If racist officers killing due to skin colour was the case would the racist officers be sparing the women? That to me is further evidence that it's the manner of the interactions with the police which is the biggest issue rather than simply the skin colour. Again that says we have to look at why so many black men are disproportionately getting into violent confrontation with the police. Is it simply that they are from poor areas and as such lead a life of crime? Could it literally be as simple as that and all that's needed here is to break that cycle of crime by giving more opportunities?
