Salary Cap

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  1. pompey_red

    pompey_red Well-Known Member

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    apparently there is a vote of league 1 and 2 clubs about a proposed salary cap very soon

    2.5 million quid in league 1
    1.5 million quid in league 2

    There will also be limits on squad sizes of over 21 players

    no doubt we will get a waiver period but we wont get a vote, however the 3 promoted clubs leaving league 1 for the championship will.

    there is talk of 18 million in the championship, this will just make it even harder for lower league clubs to compete at championship level once promoted imo.
     
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    If shared equally among a 25-man squad that would equate to about 13.5k pw per player?

    Bit more than we pay?
     
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    13.5k in the championship must be double our top earners I would guess
    but in league 1 - maths quite easy 2.5 million between 25 players is 100k per year or 2k per week - I am sure we pay significantly more than that and did so last year as well.
    Surely if they vote in a salary cap there has to be a grace period for existing clubs too - Sunderland for example must be well over that and you cant just bring that in for next season
     
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    Think your maths is wrong there. 2.5 million divided by 25 is 100000. Divide that by 52 and you get 1,923 per week. It will actually be less as the cap also includes agents fees.
     
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    You beat me to it!
     
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    Steve Wood Well-Known Member

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    A period of adjustment will be allowed to honour existing contracts I expect.
     
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    So as soon as a Championship club offers one of our lads £1924-a-week to go and play for their U23s he'll be screaming to leave, and there's nothing we can do about it even though we'd presumably have the spare cash to be able to up his wages? What a load of b0llocks that is.
     
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    What is the motivation for this though? Is it because of, or despite the pandemic?
    If we don’t get back to crowds at match days soon the efl structure is going to implode
     
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    For me there has to be a limit on squad numbers right up to the Premier league in order for this to gave a chance of working. Man city and the like are already signing all the promising academy players, then loaning them out to clubs to gain experience.
     
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    Although the Championship big boys won’t be able to run with bloated squads, so perhaps less risk of them hoovering up all the talent from smaller clubs?

    Winnall and Hourinhane wouldn’t have left us under this system.
     
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    Salary caps are a bad idea in my opinion. It just gives overpaid accountants at the bigger clubs more licence to get creative. They just find other ways to top up players wages either through sponsorships, image rights or some other loop hole scheme.
     
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    Using the same policy as Chelsea, where the club pays a loan fee too, that way they snap the talent up but doesn’t cost hardly anything and one that break through are a bonus.
     
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    Difficult subject for a ambitious club in L1 or 2.
    On one hand keep costs down, cost effective etc.
    On other the jump is so big to Championship you are by default making it nigh on impossible to get up and stabilise without huge amounts being gambled by club/owners.
     
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    I was referring to the proposed 18M cap for the Championship. It shows how far off we are (I think!)
     
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    Salary caps will only work if every major league signed up. If the EFL enforce one, then clubs from overseas will just choose not to use them and will make it harder to sign players from abroad and more UK based players would leave to go overseas to move to a league with no salary cap.
     
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    Pretty much what happened before TV rights, top players went to Spain or Italy for the money.
     
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    Salary cap should be a percentage of turnover instead of one rule fits all as that would penalise clubs that can afford to pay more.
     
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    Very few English players ever went abroad - Rush, Lineker, can't think of any others offhand.
     
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    Gazza, Lineker had a british partner Baldwin or similar .Also didn’t Platt go abroad , think there were quite a few tbh .
     
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    I meant top players from abroad coming here, they didn’t because they could earn more money in Spain and Italy
     

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