Salary cap in League 1 and 2 confirmed

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by BarnsleyReds, Aug 7, 2020.

  1. Tykeored

    Tykeored Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2017
    Messages:
    5,301
    Likes Received:
    6,572
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley
    They will never never have a level playing field, swillsboro slopes over a metre from one end to the other :p
     
    Redhelen likes this.
  2. Mjt

    Mjt618 Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2015
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    204
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Thing is you look at the clubs in leagues one and two and with the exception of Sunderland, Portsmouth, Ipswich, Bolton, Plymouth, Bradford and possibly Wigan, Swindon, Oldham and MK dons, I don’t think there’s a club left that can attract sustainable crowds of 10k+.


    The salary cap is the death of the lower leagues, I’m sure there are clubs in the conference with wage bills not far off or exceeding £2.5m like Notts County etc.


    Life below the championship I can see it being opened up to premier league B teams very soon, it will kill the league system in the long run.
     
    Jordym93 likes this.
  3. Merde Tete

    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    17,231
    Likes Received:
    16,319
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Lincoln
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    So what happens next time we get relegated? We just have to cut the wage bill by 80% overnight? That's absolutely bonkers.
     
  4. ley

    leythtyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2019
    Messages:
    8,194
    Likes Received:
    12,127
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    No, we wouldn't. Contracts signed before relegation would effectively be partially exempt.
     
    anstonred likes this.
  5. Ses

    Sestren Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    4,820
    Likes Received:
    4,816
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Every player will be treated as earning the divisional average for the length of their contract.

    So if you assume 20-man squads and we go down and end up with 10 contracted players costing a total of £4m pa, the calculation as to how much we'd have left to spend will be done based on them earning something like £1.25m. We'd have another £1.25m pa to spend on ten new players to fill up the squad.
     
  6. Merde Tete

    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    17,231
    Likes Received:
    16,319
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Lincoln
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    That's sensible. We could do with something like this in the Championship to prevent misuse of parachute payments. Though I guess that if any attempt was made to bring it in, the idea of a "Premier League 2" would quickly reappear.
     
    Redhelen likes this.
  7. mat

    matthirst952 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2015
    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    98
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Barnsley be signing some good players on 8 year contracts at this rate, just incase we ever go down :D
     
    anstonred, Redhelen and Merde Tete like this.
  8. Ses

    Sestren Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    4,820
    Likes Received:
    4,816
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Not much use if they got us relegated!

    I could legitimately see it happening with some big Conference clubs though. I'm sure the likes of Notts County could drum up more than £1.5m a year in wages, and I bet Salford City did when they were down there. Could end up with them having to cut back on spending after becoming a League club!
     
  9. pompey_red

    pompey_red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2005
    Messages:
    13,539
    Likes Received:
    9,582
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Fareham
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    how would stopping the progress of upwardly mobile and well run clubs be of benefit? your opening paragraph about stopping a closed shop is totally at odds with your second!
     
  10. Sco

    Scoff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    9,221
    Likes Received:
    7,963
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The interface between business and technology
    Location:
    Brampton by the Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Why should a club be able to afford bigger and better players just because they are from a large city and have a historic larger fanbase. Surely a level playing field on the pitch would help the smaller clubs (like ours) compete? Go back to the 70s and 80s and teams like Villa, Ipswich and Forest could rise up and win the league just by getting a good manager and some good signings.

    Perhaps Sunderland could lower the admission cost or improve the customer experience instead of blowing it on a couple of players.
     
    Redhelen likes this.
  11. Stephen Dawson

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2018
    Messages:
    36,200
    Likes Received:
    30,971
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    It'll be the death of the middle of the road clubs with aspirations of getting better. O.K if you're ***** with 2000 gates and are content with the odd cup run.
     
  12. Terry Nutkins

    Terry Nutkins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    Messages:
    15,177
    Likes Received:
    12,532
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Music Producer/DJ/Promoter and Owner of Hush Hush
    Location:
    www.hushhush-events.com
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I knew it, this has been the plan all along. This is one giant hoax and we’ve all fallen for it.

    They’ve taken away our freedom and stuck nappies on our faces, we’ve not been able to send our kids back to school to kill us all and we’re going to be vaccinated with micro chips made by McCain.

    And now this.
     
    Redhelen, Jimmy viz and TitusMagee like this.
  13. Jor

    Jordym93 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2018
    Messages:
    2,773
    Likes Received:
    2,462
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley
    I said some sort of this situation will happen when they introduce B teams to the premier league teams. Time for a divide in the English leagues. I don't care if one league ends up like Scotland. Least its passion and how football use to be
     
  14. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2016
    Messages:
    17,640
    Likes Received:
    20,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Retired, full time grandad.
    Location:
    Mapp.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I see the opposite. I see it as a chance for the smaller clubs to compete and join the elite.
    Players, (unless at the top of their game and capable of moving up the leagues.) will be looking at the better run clubs rather than the supposedly big clubs. To try achieve their dream of bigger salaries.
    I don’t see the system as perfect but the clubs have voted this in. I can see why.
     
    pompey_red likes this.
  15. Sco

    Scoff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    9,221
    Likes Received:
    7,963
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The interface between business and technology
    Location:
    Brampton by the Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Why? If Rochdale and Sunderland both have the same salary cap then the team that gets the best manager and recruits the best players will do better. It levels the playing field.

    You could argue that Sunderland have more fans and are more attractive, but is Sunderland more attractive to a 20 year old than Gillingham or Wimbledon?
     
    Redhelen likes this.
  16. Old Goat

    Old Goat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2017
    Messages:
    8,070
    Likes Received:
    14,927
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    While I have no objection to salary caps in principle, it has to be all or nothing. Continuing to allow Championship clubs to have a different system to L1 and L2 is only going to widen the gap between Championship and L1.

    We've moaned for years about parachute payments helping to maintain an "us and them" set-up. This form of salary cap gives the same kind of advantage to any club relegated to L1. We'd have a squad full of relatively higher earners whose contracts will be partially discounted when comparing our total wage bill to the cap. Under those conditions, I'd even back Jose Morais to get us back up if we were relegated.
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2020
  17. Bruce

    Bruce Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    841
    Likes Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Herts
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Isn't the Championship cap under discussion? Looks like it will be set at £18m per season
     
  18. Dan

    DannyWilsonLovechild Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    15,548
    Likes Received:
    19,562
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley
    I cant say I've seen figures for the championship but it has to be the next step. The crazy thing though, if you have flat set rate thats £18m,,, there are plenty of clubs that cant afford that. And what would it change in terms of Wigans situation? £10m t/o and £18m wages is still a recipe for disaster but would still be perfectly legal.
     
  19. rey

    reytfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2018
    Messages:
    1,074
    Likes Received:
    1,466
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Jimmy Hill will be turning in his grave. Didn't he lead the campaign to abandon the maximum weekly wage for footballers in the early 60s, which I believe was £10 per week at the time.
     
    tomaiba and Stephen Dawson like this.
  20. Stephen Dawson

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2018
    Messages:
    36,200
    Likes Received:
    30,971
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    There's going to be a lot of out of work footballers. It might benefit the clubs short term but it won't help players.
     
    SFOTyke likes this.

Share This Page