Happy Tuesdays ?? q. for Admin.

What do you expect admins to do though, genuinely? Compile a list of names and evidence and file a complaint with local plod? Admins have lives, we are all adults on here (some with questionable views) and it's not down to admins to police it. They remove the posts and beyond that what else should we expect? Personally I want to thank all of our admins for doing a thoroughly thankless job.

 

It actually is down to admins to police it. Legally it is.
For example if an out and out racist was posting extreme racist posts and that poster wasn't banned then legal action could be taken against he site owner. Now I'm not saying we are in that territory, just explaining how it is a legal obligation to police or moderate it

What do I think should be done? Well I think that when a certain poster is regularly posting racist crap then that oster shouldn't be allowed to continue to do so.

And yes I do understand how hard the job is and how they really shouldn't have to do anything at all but it seems to me that a certain poster is just an out and out racist who absolutely ruins every thread he is involved in by posting his racist bile, and apart from that he doesn't even know how to use the BBS.. It's much harder work to keep moderating and pruning his threads than it is to simply get rid of the bad apple. Had that one poster not been involved with the thread it was much more of a genuine debate despite the far right views of people like nudger, he at least put forward his views coherently

 

If as you say a certain poster is regularly posting racist crap (I dont think you're being hypothetical?) then I would argue we are in the banning/legal action territory.

 

Legal action I don't believe is right as it isn't the case of the posts being out and out illegal but if you imagine the BBS as being a pub, if you've got one person in there who is antagonising the rest of the pub to such an extent that every time he sits down the landlord has to make the entire table move away then eventually you have to say that surely that one customer shouldn't be allowed back in the pub

 

How could I participate in a thread if I was banned .

 

Who said you were complicit in racism? Who asked you to trawl through a thread? Fonzie says that he reported specific posts.

I like how simply because you have seemingly never liked me you now try to turn it around as being my fault that Selby red posts racist **** on the BBS. That's out of order fired in my opinion
Do you honestly believe that the BBS should be restricted to football? You've used the forum for long enough, both as admin and as a regular poster, to know the BBS has always been this diverse with topics and discussions both light-hearted and quite deep and serious

 

Interesting how people want to condemn racism but nobody mentions some of the personal abuse hurled between various posters.
I’m not defending racism in that statement just saying there is no excuse for personal abuse.

 

Depends what you consider personal abuse. If calling a racist a racist is abusive then yes I'll continue to do so.
Is nudger calling someone a snowflake considered personal abuse?
A lot of the 'personal abuse' comes about as a result of the person acting horribly and generating an angry response because of their posts. I know because I've been a **** and caused people to do the same to me many times and have been the one hitting back at others too. It all really depends on the context of the conversation imo as to what is and isn't justified

 

No I didn't report any at all. I didn't even think the report button worked anymore as whenever I have reported anything from the borderline to the outright racism it's always been seemingly ignored, coupled with other members saying their reports were seemingly ignored and I've always thought it was broken.

 

The legally responsible thing was simply a fact in direct response to someone who mentioned it. It wasn't an insult or a slight on your character. I also don't think you are backing racism.

And no, as brexit is the biggest thing affecting our lives right now and forever going forward (covid-19 aside) I don't think it's been done now and we should all just move on from it. It's a real issue, an issue that affects each and every one of us.
Also I've had my opinions changed on forums many times. Ironically on the immigration issue it was changed many years ago as a direct result of a debate on this very site, or on an earlier version of it at least.

 

I'll.be the first to admit I called folk out using strong language. Racism, lies and propaganda needs calling out. It's a strange situation to be in, I'm a foul mouthed woke,snowflake apparently.
We've got a diverse football team, what if players read this rubbish?
Some of the opinions shared on here are straight from a Bernard Manning gig.
Folk have tried to reason, provide evidence but all you get is Nick Griffin, Farage and Katie Hopkins response.
Same individuals then share videos (made by proven extremeright wingers) which carry backhanded racist messages.

I've also in recent weeks seen an increase in false reporting on Covid 19. I understand folk are struggling but to see it being downplayed is dangerous.

Just my observations.

 

Actually you mentioned the legal thing: 'It actually is down to admins to police it. Legally it is.'

 

I know I hardly covered myself in glory in that thread, but I find it very difficult to sit back and let people spout racist nonsense.
It's a good thing I'm not an admin on here or there wouldn't be anybody left I don't think. Reckon I'd have even banned myself by now.

 

Yes but in a direct response to you saying it wasn't the moderators responsibility to police it

 

Yep and one thing this forum does well is tells people when they are wrong, which is fine. I just don’t see the need for people to start getting personal with it.
If you think I’m talking rubbish, tell me, if you think I sound racist tell me but the personal stuff is wrong IMO.

 

I agree to an extent but there are lines that seem to being crossed more often these days on a wide variety of posts that result in personal abuse. That’s not about opinions.
If someone posts a horrible comment, why can’t people call them out on that and refrain from adding personal abuse.