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  1. Redstone

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    Still on the quarantine list. Funny that.
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    About 3 weeks ago the Greek government stipulated that all people entering from Sweden had to have a negative test within 48hrs of entry. So it's not only the UK that has concerns regarding Sweden's infection rates. Perhaps the cautious approach is something to do with the swedish government's laissez-faire approach to the pandemic, I don't know.
     
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    Sweden's infection rate is lower than ours currently and is well below the criteria for the quarantine restrictions.
     
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    havana red1 Well-Known Member

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    If the statistics are correct then there must be something happening there that is troubling certain governments. It wouldn't make sense otherwise. We can enter Greece with no pre-test requirement but they can't: suggests somethings not quite right. Sweden is a large market for Greece.
     
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    Hence my post it's very odd. But I'm sure no explanation will be forthcoming.
    Excess deaths across Europe have dropped below the usual for this time of year. Hopefully this will continue through the Autumn months ahead.
     
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    Yes hopefully and things are generally looking positive. Overall though Sweden's statistics aren't that great when compared with the UK (in terms of population). Screenshot_20200904_102001_com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox.jpg
     
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    It's almost like they're not "following the science".

    They got it right - apart from the self same **** up we had with care homes - and everyone knows it.
     
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    Big brother says its the place to go
    Too much time to think, too little to do
     
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    Only a swede will be able to tell us if they 'got it right'. Terrible mortality rate there per number of infections and with a density of population massively lower than ours. So has it really worked?: appears not.
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...ect-swedens-covid-policy-given-promotion/amp/

    Looks like the WHO agree, they’ve put Giesecke in charge of advising Tedros on future pandemic strategy.

    Mortality rate per number of infections is just a function of how much testing you do to turn up more and more asymptomatic cases (and ramp up the number of false positives as there are x false positive cases for every 100 people you test).
     
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    In terms of current restrictions it's up to date numbers that are relevant though.
     
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    You can't really compare the approaches of two countries with such vastly different population densities. Transmission would obviously be less of an issue in a sparsely populated country.
     
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    It’s been a fek up all round with this ******* virus and not many countries have come out of this with any credit whatsoever .
    Especially ours as we had more time to prepare and foresight than a lot of other countries.
    It’s been a total balls up starting with the Chinese Authorities trying to cover up rather than put proper practices in place , Our govt have been an absolute disgrace both in the preventive measures and test and trace .
    We have been one of the worst hit despite having longer to prepare ,
     
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    Cumulus nimbus floats by...
     
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    Instead we went for maximum economic disruption and highest Kill ratio in the Western World - bravo Boris!
     
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    Kill Ratio?

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    Yes, they got it absolutely right, which is why their death rate is 20x that of neighbouring Norway with a larger hit on the economy (10x Denmark or 20x Finland again with worse hit on economy). The infections/death rate in Sweden dropped significantly about 2-3 weeks after the schools broke up but that is completely unrelated...
     
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    No they didn’t. Why lie? (Schools remained operational throughout, Swedish school holidays start second week of June). Show me the drop off in deaths on this graph. It’s a clear curve.

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    Your other numbers are all also wrong, by the way. Though it is, you’re right, true that Norway have done even better economically than the Swedes, and have less deaths, though not to the factor you’re stating.

    Sweden have less cases today than both Norway and Denmark, by the way.
     
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    Instead of arguing about what Sweden did I'm more interested about what it tells us. So far a lot of evidence seems to show at after a certain level of infections serious cases fall off dramatically. This adds weight to the existing T-cell response and that herd immunity will be achieved a lot quicker.

    We may be fearing a ‘second wave’ which our immune systems already have well in hand.
    I think its right that it's a cautious release of any restrictions while keeping a close eye on the situation world wide looking for signs of deaths increasing at high rates.
     

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