Police shooting hypocrisy

No reason to believe it’s fake. All types of incidents like this happens to all ethnicities. It highlights the pathetic gun laws in the US. No victims like this are less valuable than any other. The Black lives matter highlights the prejudices of the police which is rife. Certainly a minority I would guess. There are incidents daily in the US that are abhorrent. This is particularly distasteful and would no doubt be reported locally. ( if not I would go along with fake) Agree should be reported nationally to highlight Police procedures which appear to be trigger happy at the mo.

 

Just because the US police are trigger happy, untrained, out of control and incompetent doesn't mean they aren't racist.
They're quite obviously capable of gunning down white people too. How does that prove any point other than the US is completely broken?

 

It’s a shame that an incident like this would be used To try and negate any issues of racism and have a dig at Black lives matter and anyone who supports/sympathises with this movement.

 

Just stop points scoring then throwing the teddy when it gets callee out.

 

Personally .....when you feel you have to answer your door with a gun .let alone carry one for protection something is seriously wrong with society let alone the neighbourhood...... surely your own common sense should tell you it's time to maybe move house...

If its impossible to move ...I think if I was a home owner there now I'd I'd seriously
be installing security cameras and an intercom system .....

As for the cowboys in the police force words fail me...apart from big egos big guns ...

 

You say it hasn’t made the news channels. It has:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....an-shot-dead-cop-answering-door-gun-hand.html

 

Pretty much sums up the whole issue. I'll leave it there.

 

The country that made films in the 40s,50s 60s about and celebrating the wild west. A lawless time of murder, segregation, racism, tequila, gambling, hookers and cattle bothering.

Then came the films about vigilante hero cops, Dirty Harry to John McClaine. All continued to worshiped the gun and American supposed heroism, Team America **** yeah!

I loved all those films, all were fantasy and far fetched, I think all of these cops need to put down the Die Hard box sets and watch a little more Heartbeat.

 

Because of pressure from the family in this case. Police published it believing it shows the officers acted correctly. Usually they do it in the interest of transparency.

Why are their two angles? Two police officers. Simple as that. Body can on two people means two videos.

 

Give over Fonzie. It's a completely valid discussion to have. Why is their uproar when Jacob blake is shot but nothing when this man is? As much as it may be uncomfortable to admit the reason for that is because he isn't black.

 

The daily mail doesn't have a news channel. By news channels I meant TV stations. Jacob Blake's death was covered by the BBC, I saw it. This wasn't. Why?

I said it's received hardly any coverage in the UK, it hasn't. It isn't on the BBC, itv, sun, mirror, telegraph etc etc news websites, it's on the daily mail. That's hardly any coverage.

 

That's absolutely horrendous.

I'd have 100% posted this video for discussion if I'd seen it. It's abhorrent and nobody deserves to die at the hands of police like that.

 

No doubt Trump will call the dead man a loser and a member of Antifa because he was playing Crash Bandicoot.
He was murdered, three shots in the back. No warning.
I hope the cop goes to jail for a long time.

 

Yep. Absolutely embarrassing some of the initial replies on this thread, as if a mans death is a good excuse to point score in these political debates.

You’re an f*cking embarrassment the lot of you and you should be ashamed.

 

Watcher of the skies was posting pictures saying 'a white man does this and nothing, a black guy does nothing and gets killed by police' to prove that jacob Blake's shooting was racist. You cannot do that and then say that a video of a white guy being gunned down for nothing means nothing.

Jacob Blake's shooting was due to gun culture, shoot first ask questions later, panicked police and a violent criminal who quite simply caused his own shooting by threatening police with a knife, assaulting them and resisting arrest but instantly people started using his shooting as evidence of racist police and started saying this doesn't happen to white guys.
It does happen to white guys. The difference is you hear about it when it's a black guy because it is turned into a racist thing even if it isn't.
Take these two incidents and I think every single person has to admit that this guy is by far the most innocent of the two yet one got worldwide attention one didn't. It isn't racist to mention that, it's a perfectly reasonable thing to point out.

A few facts as I see them (and massively simplified)
There was historical racism on a crazy scale in America which apart from anything else lead to a concentration of black people in poorer areas of the country.
There is current institutional racism in America which means that black people are turned down for jobs, treated with suspicion etc and so are unable to really get out of the poorer areas or make anything of themselves.
There are racist cops, no doubt about it, who will bully and arrest and stop black guys for nothing and will happily beat a black guy for nothing, or even kill a black guy for very little.
But as well as all of those things there is also a huge gun problem. Everyone is armed and so everyone is constantly on edge and living in fear. The public panic because they know the police are armed and could easily kill them and the police panic because they know the public are armed. It's a vicious circle right there.
And we have absolutely terribly trained officers who **** themselves and shoot first ask questions later.
Then we also have the absolute disgusting officers like Derek Chauvin who are thugs and will beat, abuse, and kill anyone.

My problem is that they are not all one issue and the only way of solving the problems are to treat them as seperate issues. Something needs doing about the general racism but other than education and constantly reminding everyone that skin colour means nothing (that doesn't work because racists are too thick to learn) or throwing money at the problem to at least solve the 'poor areas' problem then as sad as it is it is very hard to stop racism. I think the taking a knee thing is a good idea in that respect as it's none violent and says 'i agree with you'.

Something also needs to be done about the gun culture. Banning them is the only solution. Or at least changing the laws drastically.

And something needs to be done about the thugs in police obviously.

But they're all seperate things as I've said before and need dealing with as such because a one size fits all approach to finding a solution won't work. Throw as much money at a poor black area as you want but if you've got guns you won't stop the deaths. Take the guns off public and if you've got poor black areas with high crimes you still won't stop the deaths. Cure racism completely and you won't stop people like in this video dying.

Anyway I'm not sure what the relevance of all that was to your post but it did seem sort of relevant as I started typing.

 

That's the thing BR. I'm 100% certain that you would and so would many others but because of his skin colour you hadn't seen it. Jacob blake was shot after threatening police with a knife and within hours it was covered by BBC news with a caption to the effect of 'black man shot by white police'. This guy was shot whilst surrendering with his hand in the air in submission months ago and yet t isn't deemed newsworthy.

I don't think there's any reverse racism anywhere or anything like that by the way. That wasn't my point. But I do think that instantly linking a black guys shooting or death to racist cops and saying 'this doesn't happen to white guys' is a dangerous thing to do because the more you hear it or see it the more it's believed and the more that view is reinforced in your head. I've no doubt at all that we have people on the BBS who genuinely believe it only happens to black guys because it's all they see. People genuinely looked at Jacob blake and in their head it was 'omg look at that racism'. I looked at it and I'm sure you did too (once you had all the facts of him being armed) and thought 'omg yet another one caused by a heavy gun culture in america'

 

I don't disagree with you. However I think the main reason the other shootings were news over here is because of what those shootings led to. George Floyd's death led to the protests and riots. Jacob Blake's death led to an increase in tensions over those riots and protests.

 

Oh yeah I do think that too but that's also related in the same way. The riots etc were because people were accusing the police of shooting Jacob blake for racially motivated reasons. The reason they assume that is because all they ever hear about and see is the incidents like that that involve black men and they're accompanied by captions of 'black man is shot'. The skin colour is emphasised and it creates hysteria.

Now I'm not saying racism isn't a huge huge problem in America (and here too) because it is but as I've said before I think that's what leads to the encounters with police like Jacob blake and George Floyd rather than being a driving factor once the encounters have begun. The sad fact is that in America there are just far too many guns and gung ho cops

 

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