Strubers own words from presser

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  1. stairfoot.red

    stairfoot.red Well-Known Member

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    "My agent as been talking to other clubs for weeks months". That's the problem with release clauses they allow agents to tout players / managers to other clubs completely out of the control of their current club. Wasn't Stendel sacked because the board claim he was talking to just one club so it's ok to speak to more than one club but not to just one.
    On transfers in he said "that's in the hands of the owners" not him so don't hold your breath
     
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    His focus is here at Barnsley. But he's talking to other clubs for months.

    Somewhat contradictory!
     
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    He can pack his bags as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    So the snippets so far tell us nothing, as expected.
    I imagine the difference between this scenario and Stendel’s is perhaps that Stendel did not have the release clause and therefore breached the contract.
    We’ve Hobson’s choice I guess in that we can’t attract who we want without giving them a get out option.

    no one really wants to be here for Barnsley FC, they are here for their own interests and as long as all parties are bought into that then there’s no issue.

    the only people who are bought into Barnsley FC are the fans!
     
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    His agent has been talking to other clubs. Doesn't make it right, but we have to accept that if the owners put a release clause then this will happen. Same with players, their agent(s) will be looking at other clubs for them all the time. The merry go round continues
     
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    Regardless of anything else, this does also highlight the double-standards applied with regard to Struber and Stendel doing essentially the same thing.
     
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    His agent is talking to other clubs not Struber... We all knew the rumour regarding Watford and now Red Bull so that's no surprise.

    If the other club agrees they can pay the release fee are they allowed to approach agents to see what interest there is?

    Hardly Strubers fault that and at the minute he is still here.
     
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    You don't know if it's a double standard, because Struber could be speaking to clubs with permission.

    That said, i'd be putting him on garden leave until his future is resolved.
     
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    More worryingly is that there seems no sign of any new players coming in .
     
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    I think once people grasp what modern day football is all about they will have lower blood pressure and realise that this is normal. Doesn't mean we have to like it but it's the norm.
     
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    Depending on what version of the truth you believe.........

    Scenario #1
    Under contract Head Coach, with no release clause and who hasn't been granted permission to speak to any other clubs, speaks to a club(s) in the same division, and then speaks to some of the under contract coaching team about making the move together. All without the club's knowledge.

    Scenario #2
    Under contract Head Coach, with a minimum fee release clause, is aware of interest in him through his agent. No confirmation that he has personally spoken or met with any interested clubs. One club, on another continent, eventually makes an official offer based on meeting the minimum release fee, all with the club's knowledge, with no mention of backroom staff, and he continues coaching the team during his own negotiation process.

    They're pretty different situations no?
     
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    I'd go with option two and if he goes sooner rather than later he'll have more blessing from me. There will still be 42 games for the new guy to hopefully give us a decent season and the club will still have until the 16th to scour the U.K market for players.
     
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    To be fair, he might have decided that he wanted to leave at the end of last season. But the club wanted him to stay, and said basically meet the clause, or you’ll have to stay put for the remainder of the contract.

    Agents tout players/managers all the time - it’s their job to see if there is anything ‘better’ or more lucrative out there. It doesn’t mean Struber has done anything wrong.

    He’s a well thought of coach. Speculation and interest will always follow that kind of coach, whenever he goes. It’s why we also had to fork out compo for his previous club too.
     
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    I'm just staggered by this.

    Stendel was sacked and the club latterly allege he was talking to other clubs. I may have missed it, but was any other club charged with an illegal approach? I recall some moaning about Hearts when they looked to appoint him, but he'd been sacked well before then. He'd spoken with Sunderland before that and decided it was too soon. Did BFC successfully sue Stendel for some form of breach of contract? Yet it seems a constant acceptance with many than Stendel did wrong and not that the club simply sacked him for asking (repeatedly) for experience and after the 5-1 loss at Preston. I also recall Conway speaking to TykesTv and saying Stendel would be there as long as he wanted to be.

    Now we have Struber. Firstly, the club admitted speaking to him while contracted by another club. Is this not an illegal approach by BFC? He now admits his agent has spoken with clubs for months. He's also been repeatedly asking for better players and has been given more experienced native players than stendel was allowed. Now you could try arguing his agent is speaking with clubs and not Struber, you could. But Struber is aware of this and therefore complicit in the dialogue and still doesn't feel its necessary to ask his agent to stop speaking on his behalf. Well, its obvious his agent is acting on behalf of his client. Is this worse than the smoke and mirrors covering Stendels sacking? Erm, yes. Its not one club, its multiple "clubs"

    How we can entertain him being in position after their allegations about Stendel says a great deal for me. Firstly to the the allegations they made about Stendel, and also that Struber is only getting to dictate circumstances because there is £1m+ riding on it.

    Its yet another dark day under the LeeConCo.
     
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    I just wish some could see and accept there is a difference in those scenarios, instead of appearing to continue to look for reasons to criticise the board.
     
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    Let's not overlook that the owners will be delighted with their £1.8M for Struber. Good as flogging a player off, that.
     
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    I think most supporters will be delighted that the club have got £1.8m for the Head Coach. There's a lot of teams staring in to a financial abyss right now - this means we've stepped behind a few of them in the queue to get there.

    On this one I think the owners need congratulating rather than criticising.
     
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    This is all up front and honest. People moan when there's no dialogue then moan when the club puts it all out there. They can't win.
     
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    Well we know that Red Bull making their approach official was only reported in the last couple of days. I'm not sure anyone else has made any sort of official approach.

    I think this sort of thing is normal in today's game, with both players and managers being tapped up behind the scenes via agents. The club's handling of Stendel doing so was the over-reaction, IMO. However, they chose to go down that route at the time and left us in limbo for weeks as a consequence.

    The situation with Struber looks very similar in nature, but the response to it is infinitely more tolerant from the ownership. That surely can't just be down to the existence of a release clause

    The one thing I really don't hope is repeated is taking an eternity to appoint a permanent replacement and wasting valuable fixtures doing so. Getting away with it (with a huge element of good fortune) doesn't mean it's a good strategy to follow.
     
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