Losing Struber will do us good

So, it is what it is. Elsewhere on this board you can find opinions galore on the rights and wrongs of how we got here. My point is that I see Struber going as a real opportunity to get this squad playing to its strengths in a tweaked and more pragmatic system that increases the forward tempo of games by going more directly at teams using full width of the pitch. I do believe we have talent in this squad, that if unlocked by sensible tactics and motivational/man management, can stay in this league. Much of it is masked by the system and the sacrificial team selections that Struber seems to think it demands. With further work we have a solid back line and OK midfield. But we desperately need two big, strong forwards to provide attacking options.

He's not been all bad but I've now had enough of Struber's game plans and selections. Last season's 'heroics' are a distant memory and with hindsight how heroic was it anyway.

What I now dread is Struber staying - unless he's willing to review tactics, set up and selections.

 

He doesn’t have the luxury of 5 subs to correct his mistakes plus throw everything at it at the end when we desperately need something.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

I’m happy he’s going can’t stand the type of football being played. It’s beyond dull.

 

Bang on the button mate . He has hoodwinked us long enough.
Think we need a good English manager who knows what is required for championship. One to play good football and get the best out of our young players

 

This for me, some of the most boring stuff I've watched for many years.

 

Aren’t you effectively agreeing with Struber? He says he needs another forward to get the best out of the side & you’re saying we need two.

Regardless of whether he stays or go’s we aren’t staying up without another forward joining.

 

I tend to follow the line, I wanted him to stay, but if he can't be professional enough to give a club at least a couple of season fk him.
As as far as I can see he has made his position untenable, not because of his comments about dissatisfaction with the boards recruitment ( we are all behind that).
But with his comments about constantly monitoring offers through his agent, granted any manager would probably jump if a mega job came in and her thought he was up to it, but USA pfff its not even a proper league!
I mean how can he in all honesty entice decent players here if they think he is ever likely to bu.gger off!

 

You’d think with Paul Cook available that would be a no brainier.

 

Paul Cook’s am interesting one. About 10 months ago the majority of Wigan fans wanted him sacked & then he turned it around with a bunch of players on wages they couldn’t afford. Was he that good? Or should Wigan have always been mid table?

If we had Kieffer Moore, Morsy, Williams, Robinson, Lowe, Byrne etc I instantly think we’d be a lot better side.

I don’t think he’d be on our shortlist & I don’t think he’d want to manage us anyway.

 

Yep, i agree with him on striker(s) - I'd go for 2 big lads for resilience and the option to maybe play 2 big lads together when the opposition demands it BUT, I think he has got the implementation of gegenpress wrong in the context of our squad. In fact, I think I'd prefer to call what we should be doing in old language of 'attacking the ball' and 'closing down'. But basics first, pass and MOVE...preferably forwards.

 

Brilliant OP! Chaplin and Woodrow must play together as strikers. Odour and Simoes must be utilised more. I would prioritise a defensive midfielder over a striker so Styles and Mowatt can push further forward

 

How is struber going a good thing?
He’s using what’s available to him. Defence we’re absolutely horrendous last year until he sorted it.
Going with 3 centre halves has made us less of a threat going forward but certainly tighter at the back then we were. If we’d have put our chances away we’d be alright.
I honestly believe with backing he would stay and make us into a solid championship side. He’s actually come out and said he’s more ambitious then the owners and he needs backing. Exactly what everyone is saying on here.
Extremely talented manager. Big loss.

 

What I don’t understand about him saying he wants backing is why didn’t he sort it out before he signed ?
His agent must have done due diligence it wasn’t a secret that the board wanted to buy cheap and sell big .
If they aren’t backing him then they are in breach of his contract and he can just surely walk away .
Imo it’s smoke and mirrors he was eager for the publicity of the Championship to further his career imo .

 

That interview after the Brentford game, that to me didn’t look like someone after the publicity of the championship but someone who cares and has put there all in. Who knows what the owners have been saying to him over the summer. Without him we would’ve gone down last season it’s as simple as that and if people think it’s a good thing he’s going then they’re mental.

 

Because he's fixed to a system that he's run out of ideas and personnel to play. He won't get the personnel he wants. So, if he stays, he will just be rearranging deckchairs on the deck of the Titanic. It needs a refresh

 

Trouble is he puts broken deckchairs out when there’s decent ones still in the cupboard .
And he was designated ice berg lookout duty.
Struber has to go now choose what imo .
He’s lost the confidence of the board ,lots of fans and the players .
His position is untenable imo and he needs to go and sooner rather than later .
That display today against a very bad Boro team was the turning point for me .
The team selection, players positioning and substitutes imo made a statement that I’ll fek you up if you don’t let me go .
That team and display didn’t just say to me that we needed more quality but that the manager doesn’t want to be here so I say for goodness sake go .

 

Yep, that's exactly my take on Paul Cook. Went on one excellent winning streak with a squad of players probably better than ours, but which they couldn't afford. I'm not convinced he'd get any better out of our squad than Struber. I'm guessing that last season their records were probably pretty similar.