I think Struber is telling you a pack of lies

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  1. sadbrewer

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    We had this discussion a year or two back, and I was surprised how many on here wanted foreign ownership, I'd much rather have the local connection...albeit with less money.
     
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    At league one level. Mamadou Thiam got goals & assists & had his name sang at league one level.

    He got 4 goals & 11 assists I think despite missing the first two months of the season. Obviously he’d swap some assists for goals but 11 assists for a team that’s finished 4th bottom when you don’t take set pieces is superb.

    I called it ridiculous at the time but anyone questioning whether he should’ve been starting for us were just been daft in my opinion. I can only think it’s from this modern culture of everything been about the number of goals scored & ignoring what they’ve seen on the pitch.

    Brown been moved from winger to forward coincided with us going from been the worst team in the league to a mid table team. It also earned him a big move to Stoke on wages he could only dream of a couple of years ago. I imagine he’s over the moon at how well last season went.
     
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    Very harsh. I think that Struber is telling the truth as he sees it and I think he's telling the world that he doesn't think he can progress under the current system. The system keeps the club profitable but it doesn't support the ambition of the head coach, or the fans. Think about what he said when Jacob Brown was sold that players soon outgrow this club. We are selling better players than we are buying and that means that we will struggle. Thank you Mr Struber for giving it a try. I don't blame you for progressing your career.
     
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    We are in agreement mate. ;):)

    Agree with all those sentiments Jay. ( only like you, I defend em when I think some of the stuff on here is taken out of context in what they say)

    But not having listened to the interview. Could it have been leading as someone else said and lost partially in translation.? Can’t be arsed tbh to listen as he’s on his way as it appears. So if he doesn’t come out and apologise if it’s a misunderstanding I’ll take it as read.

    Regarding getting a striker in. The player that backtracked last week or so. Was done and dusted then had his head turned. Was that the boards fault. ? Not necessarily. Could have been wage demands exceeding what we are willing to pay or several other reasons. Means we have to go back to sq one so to speak. And with a new manager in the pipeline that may influence the choice or choices if any fit the bill.
     
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    And how do you explain him leaving What quality we had on the bench today ?
    We lost today as we have all season in the league but that team selection today and tactics never gave us a chance .
    He broke a golden rule today of not playing his best side and the players he picked didn’t get picked on merit either
     
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    It isn't a lost in translation thing. It was pretty clear what was being asked and what the reply was
     
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    Seems to me that he left us when we sold Jacob Brown and didn’t bring in the players from the list. I don’t think that Struber is a superman, but a duplicitous liar? I don’t see it.
     
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    So why did he take the Job. He was given the plan. He brought in several of his own players. His selections have been baffling this season. He’s lost the plot. He actually knew the plan and was excited by it. Bringing players through. He’s definitely had more say in who we’ve brought in. Given better tools than previous managers so to speak. The next manager will not take on the roll without some input. Unless he’s desperate to get into work.
     
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    Whilst driving I’m guessing. :)
     
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    No. What they wanted was foreign ownership to splash the cash. ( not something I’m in favour of by the way. Looking at some of the money splashed and getting into massive debt) Problem was, no bugger else seemed interested, Patrick insisted anyone taking on the club. ran it Responsibly.
    Whether anyone thinks this lot have not done that is pure speculation. Given their plan. We may not agree with it. But we know about it.
    Anyone thinking they want us to be a yo yo club between championship and league 1. Doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. Loss in income/revenue. £7m estimated. Can someone who has those thoughts please explain. Cos it dunt make financial sense to me.
     
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    You're talking cack.
     
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    Or some might be more" I'll show him". Who knows?
     
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    I think he’s capable of anything when he can put a team out just to make a point rather than to try and get points!
     
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    Maybe, personally I think that works for an individual not a collective
     
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    I have my reservations about Struber and I still feel we need a British manager/head coach but struber has told the board what he and the team need just like Stendal did, who got sacked for saying so. This board cannot stand criticism and definitely told like being told what to do. If left to rule I honestly think we will go down and also end up playing our matches in some far flung corner of Britain because they will not back down over the ground issue. They are bosses who believe in doing as they say not in how they do
     
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    It's tough to swallow but I think a dose of realism is needed at times.

    We love this team, this club, this town and we spend hours on here debating what's best for it because we care deeply..

    But why would a high caliber player come to Barnsley? We escaped relegation last year by a miracle and a points deduction, we're floundering this year.....I'm not an apologist for ownership by any stretch but it seems the approach for many on here is that we should just go a sign a striker that would score 20 goals a year....from where...who.......Lyndon Dykes for example (totally unproven by the way), do you think we could compete with the wages QPR offered and the attraction for a young Aussie of living in London?

    I think our biggest challenge, to use the QPR example - which circles back to my key frustration with ownership - is to shift from selling your up and comers to Stoke for 2m to selling them to Palace for 19m like Eze.
     
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    Everyone saying ‘maybe they weren’t his top targets’. That’s fair, maybe they weren’t. I think they definitely were, but have no evidence to support that claim.

    But maybe his top targets were beyond our capabilities financially. If they were is that the board lacking ambition or is that the board running the football club like they’ve said from day one? I imagine that 99% of managers out there don’t get their top targets. Ole isn’t getting Sancho. Arteta is wheeling and dealing to get one more player in for Arsenal. Lampard has to move three out if he wants to sign a defender.

    We’re obviously trying to sign the players Struber is demanding. Otherwise club official(s) wouldn’t have been in Zagreb trying to sign the striker who backed out of a done deal.

    In Woodrow, Chaplin, Mowatt, Sollbauer, Williams and Walton he has players that are good enough for the Championship. The club brought Ludewig back for the season, and the emergence of Styles and Simoes was promising - especially the former. Madds was nothing short of colossal during the lockdown games as well.

    He’s added Frieser and Helik but lost Brown. A huge loss. But it isn’t like we’re refusing to replace them and I’m sure he understands the financial constraints we’re under in this current environment.

    I think he’s only said what he has said to shift the focus from his own failings ahead of moving to another job. Is some of what he said valid? Absolutely it is. We all know that. But it was unprofessional and a kick in the teeth for us supporters. He’s failing right now to get the best out of the quality players at his disposal, continues to play his signings who aren’t yet good enough, and brought on Victor ahead of Chaplin and Schmidt yesterday. If we’re lacking quality, he’s contributed to that through identifying his players, playing them every week, and mismanaging the ones he inherited.
     
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    we wanted the money so cashed in Jacob when offered the money also wanted it. He didn’t demand anything as I understand it.
     
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    he expected us to replace the most important member of his team. We didn’t.
     
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    Should our next manager have zero ambition then?
     
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