10pm Curfew

Which shows that people lie. Only 13% of them had been In a shop? Aye alright

 

So if 14.5% of respondents had injected Covid directly into their veins it'd still be a less common infection event than eating out.

 

Although I feel a lot of the measures taken to supposedly control the spread of the virus are either without merit, counterproductive or genuinely harmful, I really don't recommend that, it's just irresponsible.

 

Even if it's outside and before 10pm?

 

if you follow it up with a good 100ml of bleach you'll be ok.

 

Genuine question for you Loko as I don't know the answer. You argue that pubs and other hospitality venues aren't the cause of the new rise and I can't argue against you with the facts but would argue anectodately from what I've seen in my small sample size. We've now seen different governments looking to close hospitality venues down, Scotland, Belgium, France, Spain, Ireland etc and possibly England next. I struggle to accept it's any sort of vendetta against the industry as it's across many different countires and why would there be? Why do you think they're targetting pubs?

As an aside, if I were in charge, and I will admit that I am generally pro-restrictions and wouldn't have re-opened the pubs when they did, I would leave them open but give the police the resource and powers to shut down any venue not properly managing the protocols that should be in place. I should also note that I'm not really a drinker so don't go to the pub too often so I'm naturally more biased and rather have pubs shut that things I do use.

Not looking to create an argument, just interested in your views of why these measures are coming in across Europe from an industry expert.

 

Very true and shows how findings of this type should be viewed.

 

That's where the problem is and exactly what should be done.

 

I don't really use pubs, my pinch point is if/when they close group exercise classes at the Gym.

However, this is not about me it's about the ability of covid responsible businesses being able to continue to trade.

Some of my clients are already making employees redundant, and not just in hospitality.

There's already a shitstorm coming next year, it's only a case of how bad.

 

Just imagine how much better the position might be now, if we had closed ports and airports straight away. I don’t think you need statistics and graphs, it just seemed to be a no brainier to me. I was absolutely astonished when I learned that weeks after the outbreak they were still open.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/thursdays-national-newspaper-front-pages-12098689

Daily Mirror: Why aren't lockdowns working?
Metro: Lockdowns are failing.
Daily Mail: So when will they listen?



Finally some parts of the media are seeing the bigger picture of how controlled are being and are fighting back.

 

Thanks for the considered response. You make a valid point about the rhetoric about retraining and I can see why you feel like you’re seen as a low skilled, disposable profession that can go and work at Capita answering calls for William Hill.

I hope things turn out well for you and the industry pal, there is surely a better way than just shutting (and killing) an entire industry.

 

There’s a huge shitstorm coming and I don’t think people realise it yet. I’ve just been on a call about Business Travel and it’s fcking bleak out there for those companies and employees. The general public don’t realise how many layers are between the end user and the airline/train company.

 

Professional services to small businesses. Insurance, accountants, etc the trickle down will affect so many strands of business.

 

Absolutely mate I work in Procurement and deal with or have dealt with loads of different commodities and there’s so many people involved in most of them. I think CIPS refer to them as supply webs rather than chains now because they’re often interlinked.

 

Get used to the future. No cash so every transaction you make no matter how small can be nosied on. No more cinemas instead you watch big releases at home on TV. No more international travel unless you've had your covid vaccine passport so if you don't take it you're stuffed. Fewer pubs so again drink at home. Leisure decimated and the government enjoying that you go to work or to study and then back home until it's time to go back to work or study.