Three Years

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by George Kerr, Oct 24, 2020.

  1. George Kerr

    George Kerr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2016
    Messages:
    1,678
    Likes Received:
    2,773
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Hoyland
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Pundits and newly appointed managers/head coaches invariably say that three years is how long it takes to make a club successful. Since its formation BFC has had 53 managers/head coaches, but only 12 have had 3 or more years tenure, with Danny Wilson (1994 - 98) being the last. How much has this impacted on how the club has prospered since 1998 ?
    A lot has been said that recruitment has been the key issue for success or the lack of. It's also been the key issue regarding certain departures. In Michael Calvin's book "The Nowhere men", which is about talent spotting, there is an interesting quote from Barry Lloyd. Lloyd an ex Chelsea and Fulham player and Brighton manager for seven years said "The average lifespan for a manager is around 18 months. The reason for that is poor team selection and recruitment. End of story. Most managers fail because of poor recruitment but clubs (owners/directors) underrate it." Is this the story of BFC ? BTW I thoroughly recommend the book.
     
    Connor and Redhelen like this.
  2. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2018
    Messages:
    37,637
    Likes Received:
    44,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Craig Hignett was saying the same on radio Sheffield yesterday.
     
  3. Air

    Airon c redscue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2016
    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    309
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Player power, agents, greedy owners etc have changed the game substantially since the launch of the Premier league, and made it virtually impossible for managers/head coaches to build a team and retain players over a 2 or 3 year period. Especially for the smaller less fashionable clubs such as ours. Those days are gone in the leagues below the Premier league. In my opinion there is too much greed and lack of patience in the modern game for anyone to truely build and keep together a successful team for any length of time.
     
    Steve Wood likes this.
  4. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2018
    Messages:
    37,637
    Likes Received:
    44,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Rotherham, Wycombe, Coventry ?
     
    wolvestyke likes this.
  5. Air

    Airon c redscue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2016
    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    309
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I'm talking about building a regular team such as the 70s Leeds or Forest. Not about a one off successful season then straight down the next. It's happened to us many times over the past few years. The destruction and dismantling of a successful team because we can't afford to retain those players.
     
    Redhelen likes this.
  6. wolvestyke

    wolvestyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    1,713
    Likes Received:
    3,300
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    There has to be something in that I think Redhelen. And it's one of the reasons I wanted a UK based manager this time around, because I believe a manager from the continent is less likely to stay for several years. Valerian posted a lovely photograph on Twitter this morning:

    I wouldn't have wanted to spend so much time away from my children (especially when they were this age) for three years. Hope I'm wrong of course!
     
    Kettlewell and Redhelen like this.
  7. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2018
    Messages:
    37,637
    Likes Received:
    44,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Coventry and Wycombe came from league 2 to championship
     
  8. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2018
    Messages:
    37,637
    Likes Received:
    44,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    True. Tbf they are of an age that could come over here and benefit though. Hopefully they might come over once he's settled, these things take time.
     
    wolvestyke likes this.
  9. Men

    Menai Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    10,655
    Likes Received:
    7,377
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Earth
    Style:
    Barnsley
    He’ll be back home in 12-18months what’s the point in moving them.
     
    Redhelen likes this.
  10. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2018
    Messages:
    37,637
    Likes Received:
    44,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Kids could be fluent in another language in that time.
     
  11. AthersleyRed

    AthersleyRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2011
    Messages:
    5,704
    Likes Received:
    3,873
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I'm sure Davey had 3 years. Or was it 2 and a half? Anyway, we ended up being lumped with Odejayi and el Haimour when he got the boot.
     
  12. gaz

    gaz97 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2016
    Messages:
    3,374
    Likes Received:
    4,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    It’s that type of picture on his Twitter that makes me think he won’t last anything like 3yrs especially with a young family.
     
  13. Til

    Tilertoes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2015
    Messages:
    4,430
    Likes Received:
    3,072
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    It felt like 50 years
     
    AthersleyRed and Redhelen like this.

Share This Page