If you’ve got kids

bUt aT LeAsT aLl ThOSe cHiLdReN aReNt dEaD NoW.

 

Great plan. Then when the ICU fills up what happens?

 

To be fair that was a really stupid comment.

 

You prevent that by educating people that if they seek treatment early the prognosis is good and ventilation isn't required. Use the nightingale hospitals for people with mild breathing difficulties where oxygen masks rather than ventilation has proved to help enormously.

 

And who's going to staff the nightingale hospitals? Perhaps you could lend your expertise as it's clear you are qualified to handle this

 

I’ll be honest I’ve seen no proof of any treatment that has such a great effect on patients that a high enough percentage can avoid the ICU

 

There is no alternative. It's a virus, it spreads. It dropped in summer it picked up in winter. Shocker. Lockdown in all its guises has had **** all impact. As I alluded to above, hygiene, social distancing, shielding the vulnerable and early interventions are the key factors.

Economy trashed, liberties lost and kids futures jeopardised for nought.

 

Oxygen masks can easily be fitted by anyone with minimal training. They're not ventilators.

But if you think we shouldn't do this and let them die, well, not really sure what to say.

 

This is the hill you’re going to die on? That there’s no correlation between stopping people interacting and the spread of a virus that transmits between people?

 

Like any disease early intervention works best. You don't wait until you have stage 4 cancer until you seek treatment. You shouldn't wait until you're literally struggling for breath to seek treatment for Covid. What's criminal is that this isn't being communicated. And yet we're spending billions on tests that, when mass testing, produce many times more false positives than real ones.

 

What I'm trying to say is my colleagues in the NHS are doing their best to deal with this and I know plenty on the frontline, including my girlfriend.

If I had read several articles on looked after children and then frequently created threads on here (as certain posters are doing with covid), criticising how social workers etc are dealing with it now, inferring I know better, would that not piss you off a bit? Can you honestly say it wouldn't at least amuse you?

 

You ignoring social distancing then ? Viral loads ?

 

I am not, under any circumstances, criticising any NHS workers.

 

I've two kids and it doesn't feel like its been stolen. We've done loads of stuff since March and still stuck to guidelines. Littlest is two so she's non the wiser and my other is seven and hes's been fine. Learnt to ride his bike during lockdown and has built up a great friendship with the lad next door to us. We managed to get away in the summer to the Norfolk coast and he's where he needs to be at school. Its been different but its how you deal with it.

 

That’s not how a virus works though is it? (I’m not being funny, it’s a genuine question). My understanding is that there’s no cure. You can ease symptoms but you’re unlikely to stop the progression.

 

You're offering opinions on how to manage the influx of patients requiring care without any first hand experience of it.

 

Right, I'm asked directly for an opinion of what I would do, that includes all manner of character assassination and abuse, but rather than bite back, I give an opinion, and now I'm criticised for doing that and I'm not even saying what you're claiming I'm saying, I'm criticising government for not educating people to seek out treatment.

 

Would treatment help though? I’d love to see evidence of it. Usually a virus has to run its course does it not? You can ease symptoms and stop side effects of symptoms developing, which may help in a small number of cases, but I don’t think it would make enough of a difference really.

 

By that logic, I've got this watch that stops werewolves coming to Barnsley.

This is proven by the fact that I've never seen a werewolf in Town whilst wearing said watch.

 

School attendance figures in England continue to slide. Now down to 82.9% across all schools on 19th November, down from 86% the week before.

In secondary schools that figure was an especially low 78%. More than 1 in 5 secondary school students weren’t in school.

I would guess this will as usual be hitting the poorest the hardest in terms of damage done.