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  1. She

    Shepley Red Well-Known Member

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    Successfully challenged a speeding ticket? I've been issued with a NIP letter, however, the letter is dated 15 days after the date of offence. Given it is only just outside the 14 day window in which it should have been issued is it worth rejecting? Any advice would be appreciated!
     
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    Beckham did. Can you afford his lawyer?
     
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    Depends if car is your name? If car is in your name it’s 14 days, if it’s a company car/someone else’s they only have to send out to the owner within 14 days not you.
     
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    In all seriousness maybe just do the speed awareness course. It might refresh your memory and make you a safer driver.
     
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    Shepley Red Well-Known Member

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    Should have been clearer in my original post!
    The car isn't in my name it's registered with my employer. When notified of the situation I asked head office to scan and email me a copy of the original NIP letter to check everything over. The date of offence is documented as 04/11/20 but the date on the NIP letter issued to my employer is 19/11/20 therefore I believe that would put them outside the timescale for issuing such notices by 1 day.
     
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    Shepley Red Well-Known Member

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    Had my driving licence over 17 years Helen and this is my first offence, but the bottom line is I shouldn't have been speeding. My employer has to return the paperwork as the registered owner of the car so I probably won't hear anything back for a couple of weeks yet. I don't even know if the speed awareness course will be an option, I believe some areas offer it and others don't.
     
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    I received one 9 months after the offence (when driving in France). The admin in France are notoriously slow when dealing with speeding fines, but they pass it on to the British authorities and the letter/ticket gets mailed out. 9 months later was a bit of a stretch though. My feeling is you will need to pay it. If you contest it and lose I think you have to pay more.

    As for speeding awareness courses, it depends on how much over the limit you were going. The one time I was caught in Britain I was going more than 10% over the limit (something like 60mph in a 50 zone) and couldnt do the speed awareness, so had to pay the fine and take the points and rightly so. I'm not a reckless driver but I was bang to rights on both occasions.
     
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    Other thing to consider is does the company own the vehicle or lease it(are they registered keeper), a lot of companies don’t own it, so a NIP could have been released within 14 days to a Finance Company as an example, who have advised your Company have it.
    If this is the case then the 14 day does not apply to you. If the company own the vehicle then it could.
     
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    PattersonLaw, Drivers Defence Service offer free advice
    https://www.pattersonlaw.co.uk/

    08000217753 Mon to Fri 9 to 5. I haven’t used them myself, just came across them on YouTube.
     
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    This. Any speeding ticket issued to any employee at our place with a company car takes a very convoluted route. First it goes to the company from whom the car is leased, then the owner of our company, then, finally, to the employee with the company car.
     
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    Just take the points and the fine. I think you'd be wasting your's and many other's time and money and would still end up in the same position.
     
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    If you were caught speeding, you were caught breaking a law. Why not just pay the fine and take it on the chin?
     
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    Because the OP has read that the police must serve the NIP to his company within 14 days and their letter is dated 19th November, which is 15 days after the speeding offence and therefore 'time barred'.
    I.e. if that's true, the he was not caught breaking the law & it'd be a waste of good money.

    I hope Shepley is successful in challenging this, then splashes out on a couple of our iFollow matches so the money is put to far better use. CYOR! :D
     
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    If he went over the speed limit, man up and take the penalty rather than weaseling out on a technicality.
     
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    I dont think this is a technicality. its the law. IF the law does indeed state a NiP must be served within 14 days of the offence (i haven't checked but i assume that to be correct) and it hasn't then there can be no weaselling. the law is the law.
     
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    I used to think like that. He who is without sin cast the first stone.


    Edit, in fact tha nuz what forget it, ignore.
     
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    Forgive me for being over simplistic. If he exceeded the speed limit, he broke the law. Whether he is caught or not is another matter. As such, I've zero sympathy and I think he should take it on the chin.
     
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    forgive me for being over simplistic and obeying the law of the land. Im not arguing that anyone breaking the law should be let off. its all rather orwellian if you are complicit with being found guilty despite the law suggesting otherwise.
     
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    There is a speed limit. If you go over it, you've broken the law, no?

    You might be caught, you might not be. You might find a technicality and evade penalty. But you've still indulged in an action that merited penalty for breaking a rule.
     

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