UK government vaccination logic

Government minister: Omg everyone is dying. Omg ban hospitality, ruin lives, kill people. Omg it's so serious omg omg omg. We need a vaccine as soon as possible. We need to rush it we can't wait a second longer.

*Gets vaccine*

Same minister: Right lads slow it down and calm down. If we do a handful a day we will have vaccinated all the vulnerable by next Christmas or the Christmas after. I reckon nothing before 8am and nothing after 8pm. Sounds reasonable right?

Someone in the back: we could always do them 24 hours a day and get people protected twice as quickly. It will save lives and save jobs.

First minister: don't be silly lad. There's no rush, MPs aren't on furlough you know.

 

Except we can only vaccinate people as quickly as it’s manufactured. It’s not how quickly we can vaccinate that’s limiting the speed of the roll out. Pfizer have said they can only deliver 5 million doses this year when original they thought 10 million.

 

Tested or vaccinated @Loko the Tyke ? ?

 

By may or june all that will be left is a desolate wasteland of boarded up shops cafes and pubs trailblazed by mass unemployment.

The Gov in the spending review had 7.5m unemployed by April. . .

You work in the ale trade. Its ******.

 

I assumed you did. Hopefully the vaccination works worldwide 2020 has been a terrible year.

 

But we aren't vaccinating people as quickly as it's being manufactured.

Surely if he government are so worried about the imminent death of the elderly that they are willing to sacrifice the entire hospitality industry and more then they should want every dose we have available delivered today if it were possible. Not nice and slow, we can't get Mavis out of bed once at 3am for a life saving vaccination. Oh but we can make Like lose his job and home

 

But it's not all our vaccine and we have only ordered 10 million doses which is enough for 5 million people and we've been told we won't get all of the 10 million before Christmas.
We need the Oxford vaccine to be approved as that is the one we have the most orders for, it's quicker and easier to produce and more importantly easier to distribute and store.
Also who said the government holding the brakes on getting the vaccine out there things are being done all the time to increase the roll out speed but we need as many vaccines as possible approved so there can be more doses put into the system

 

Aren’t there huge logistical issues with this vaccine? Meaning it’s unsuitable for small batch runs?
Would that mean it’s not really suitable for 24hr vaccinations?

I don’t know the specifics, these are questions based on a small amount of information.

 

Don’t fret. We’ve Brexit to look forward to next year.

 

From what I read - it comes in batches of 975. Once they're taken out of the deep freeze type storage and moved to "normal" refrigeration, such as when they're shipped to GP surgeries, they've got a useful life of about 72 hour from that point in time. So I guess it depends on a GP surgeries ability to knock out the 975 (or multiples thereof) in three days...

 

Didn't we get 800,000 to begin with or something like that? So they could have done 400,000 people already using them all up by vaccinating 24/7.

 

There’s a 3 week gap between the doses.

and the priority is the oldest and most vulnerable members of society.

I don’t know about the rest of you; but if someone wanted my 90 year old gran to go to the hospital for a jab at half 3 in the morning I might find that unacceptable.

 

I know about the three week gap but if we had 800k doses to begin with we could have if worked on 24/7 done 400k already who are all now waiting for their second dose in the new year.

 

So would you be happy about your gran having a jab at half 3 in the morning?

 

No, because that's when she does her supermarket shopping.

 

Then she could call on her way home.

 

And of course the elephant in the room for mass vaccinations is the same as Nightingale hospitals.

We already have a massively understaffed NHS, there aren’t thousands of qualified staff kicking their heels queuing to help out.