Strict Covid Restrictions Do Work

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  1. arabian_ian

    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    Australia a country with very strict restrictions have only had 1k deaths due to the disease.
     
    arabian_ian, Jan 25, 2021
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    Prince of Risborough Well-Known Member

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    They’ve got more room to spread out though
     
    Prince of Risborough, Jan 25, 2021
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  3. arabian_ian

    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    I take your point
     
    arabian_ian, Jan 25, 2021
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    DusThaNoIII, Jan 25, 2021
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    That’s true but Australia’s cities are busy and bustling as cities usually are.
     
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    We should have used the Nightingale Hospitals and took the hit right at the beginning.
     
    Stephen Dawson, Jan 25, 2021
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    Prince of Risborough Well-Known Member

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    Er, yes I know. It was a weak attempt at a joke
     
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  8. Loko the Tyke

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    Australia did an excellent job of shutting their borders. We didn't.

    However, there's a more materialistic impact of closing down like they did that suggests there's still trouble ahead. The success of your strategy on Covid isn't limited to the amount of deaths. There's far more at play than just that sadly.
     
    Loko the Tyke, Jan 25, 2021
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    But isn't it a case of the stricter they were, and earlier they were, the quicker they were to some normality?

    We're suffering from the highest death rates and economic disaster, all as a result of closing down late, but only strict enough to ensure enough capacity in hospitals rather than completely drive down rates, which means we have prolonged the agony.
     
    leythtyke, Jan 25, 2021
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    We've definitely prolonged the agony. Whether you view the strategy as hard enough for long enough is different depending on your view point. My comment on Australia was that some of the damage that's been inflicted on certain industries and families as a result of locking down as hard as they did still inflicts pain and anguish on people - a Covid death toll isn't the only measure for a successful strategy.
     
    Loko the Tyke, Jan 25, 2021
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  11. Stephen Dawson

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    Spot on. We're likely still going to see the 250,000 deaths mooted at the beginning but it's just taking longer. Time to be harsh but fair in my opinion and stop penalising those sticking to the rules.
     
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    We should have definitely gone for a full permanent closed borders lockdown like New Zealand. I dunno about you but I'm not really arsed about non-essentials like eating food.
     
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    Whether lockdown is the right approach is a different matter. I was just saying that once you decide to do that, you should do it properly. Four weeks of very strict measures would be better in the long term of 12 weeks of lighter, yet still costly restrictions.

    Lockdowns 2&3 here have been as a result of govt failure. Failure in test and trace. Failure to give local authorities the power and resources need to enforce covid compliance in workplaces, failure to get any real increase in NHS capacity. Failure to properly plan for return to schools / universities etc...

    All these failures will likely cost us again later in the year, even with a vaccine.
     
    leythtyke, Jan 25, 2021
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    Staffed by who exactly?
     
    Brush, Jan 25, 2021
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    I think you're preaching to the choir here mate as I might have gone along with four weeks of hard lockdown followed by opening. I'm not sure who you think you're arguing against but it definitely isn't me!
     
    Loko the Tyke, Jan 25, 2021
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    leythtyke Well-Known Member

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    Not arguing, just a discussion.
     
    leythtyke, Jan 25, 2021
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    I presumed by building them the government would have had the requisite number of staff to run them. Look what thought did ;)
     
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    Nah, that would involve planning and forethought. :(
     
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    Well on this discussion we're probably aligned on 90% of it. Especially the part on the failings of the government.
     
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    Agree completely and despite my reservations about lockdown I have said numerous times if you are going to do then do right, otherwise its pointless.
     
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