Roadmap/Hope

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  1. ley

    leythtyke Well-Known Member

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    Failings of the public come at a fraction of the cost that systemic failings of government cause.

    If Labour had given the same solutions such as a privatised contact tracing system and failure to support people that need it when asked to stay away from work, I’d probably be even more critical of them. Sadly, expect it of the tories because it’s their ideology
     
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    I still don't get sending kids back for 2 weeks just to break up again for Easter is beneficial to anyone ....... ?!?
     
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    It's got nothing to do with Starmer or the EU at all. I actually think the virus purchase and rollout has been pretty good.

    My point was that it's obvious that no member of this government is going to face any consequences for any mistake or piece of mendacity. That's evidently not how they work - they're absolutely fine with being thieves and liars, and polling suggests that the public are too. In fact, I may just have said it's got nothing to do with Starmer, but that recent interview posted on here suggests that it's not a big deal to him either!
     
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    but they sent them back for 1 day after Xmas/New Year didn't they. they don't know what they're doing, they're making it up as they go along!
     
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    After three weeks isn't there the natural break of the two weeks Easter holiday?
     
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    I suppose the longer we don't educate children for the less chance of them being able to work out how much we have harmed them by closing schools for so long.
     
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    Are you honestly saying that the public are behaving more idiotically because we have a Tory government?!!!
     
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    Well at least this time round, as I'm not working (little prospect of it either), I'll be able to join the queue....
     
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    The EU (27m) have vaccinated about 8-9 million people more than the UK (18m) in total. They've also administered more "full doses" of vaccine than the UK - Both Germany and France have more than double the population fully vaccinated than the UK (Denmark, Romania and Spain 3x, but Bulgaria only 0.4%).

    Although that is obviously a smaller fraction of their total population. Some of the member states have done much better than others.
     
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    Egham Tyke Well-Known Member

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    The Magic Roundabout in Swindon will be easier to navigate than Bojos road map
     
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    This is probably a good road map most of us would understand.....[​IMG]
     
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    I dont think thats correct, we left the EMA in 2019 as far as I can see before Covid started.
    UK regulators approved the Pfizer vaccine on December 1st, The EMA approved it three or so weeks later.
     
  13. ley

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    We were still in the transition period, so still subject to EU laws and regulations. The MHRA specifically said that EU law allowed the UK and other nations to give emergency approval to a drug or vaccine ahead of the EMA. So, membership of EMA did or would make no difference to the vaccine progress.
     
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    Not according to what I read, one of the reasons that the UK approved first was because they had no EMA work to do, the HQ having moved to Holland.

    This report appeared on MSN.
    BREXIT HAS LEFT MHRA WITH MORE SCIENTIFIC MANPOWER

    Normally it takes months, if not years, for regulators to pore over data from vaccine trials and decide whether they are safe, effective and the studies were of a high standard.
    But the MHRA, EMA and FDA all kept Pfizer's vaccine under a 'rolling review', allowing officials to scrutinise data from the studies in real time. All three regulators started this process in October and were fed the data at the same time.
    Professor Evans claimed the UK regulator was able to move faster than its counterparts abroad because it had more scientific manpower thanks to a Brexit quirk.
    He said: 'What is a unique situation is that the UK, while being governed by the EU regulatory laws and decisions, has not been carrying out assessment work for new vaccines or medicines intended for the whole EU for about 18 months.
    'The work that would usually be done by the MHRA for Europe, is being shared out by the other 27 member states. Consequently, the UK has almost undoubtedly had greater capacity to respond to a new application for authorization of a vaccine than any other country.
     
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    Bob Hope,, Road to Utopia.
     

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