Vaccination moral question

If you are worried about covid and you are for whatever reason able to jump the queue for a vaccination (be that by lying, hanging around vaccination centres or otherwise just somehow getting access to them) would you do it? Is it immoral to do so?

By this I mean if you are in a category below where they are currently doing them or below where they were doing them at the time?

Only asking as I know quite a few people who have used various means to get theirs despite not being in the correct category and I'm not sure how I feel on it

 

I think the common parlance is cu ntish behaviour

 

That made me chuckle

 

Tricky question and depends on how you come about the jab. I know a friend who has jumped the queue because his other half works in a local care home. Whilst he is classed as more vulnerable, he is not immediately at risk. However when they did teh first round of vaccinations at the care home where his partner works she called him up and said 'if you can get down here in 10 minutes they'll vaccinate you.' (its close by, he didn't need to rush!!). So he went and got it. Reason given as to why it was offered, if they didn't use the vaccines up they would have to be binned as they couldn't be returned to storage. Personally I can't say that I'd blame him for that.

 

Its shtty behaviour, pure and simple, that might not be very understanding but there you go.

 

Thats fare enough - no issue with that,

 

We got sent an email from work on Friday advising us that our staff will be added to a 'last minute' list at a centre in Bradford for a vaccine if we can get there in 30mins or less from receiving the notification. I'm not sure how I feel about it as these lists should definitely be a thing to ensure there is no waste but I think the vulnerable should be on it. She's booked in now but I would a million times rather my mam be on the list than me and there's loads of 'mams' out there.

 

If vaccination s would be wasted it makes sense for anyone to be given them to stop that happening. Lying is a different matter though.

 

That's one thing I really don't understand. If there are spares it's common sense that they should go to others in the vulnerable list not just randomly to anyone who happens to know someone or who bugged their gp enough times. The only reason I can think for it is understaffing s they're taking the easier option.

 

I have family members who have outright lies about their circumstances to get their vaccine, others who have stretched the truth a little, some who have been honest but simply asked enough times until they were added to a spares list and I know someone who used a loophole that they worked for the NHS to get their jab, he's I think 19/20 and he does work for the nhs but he works from home offering remote tech advice.

 

The Pfizer jab, which had to be stored at -70 degrees had to be used within 13 hours of leaving the freezer and could not be re-frozen.
When this was the only one available, or was readily available than the Oxford vaccine, a frightening number of doses had to be disposed of (rumoured to be £15/dose rather than the Oxford one at £3) by a mixture of people either not turning up or a vial designed to hold 6 doses stretching to more like 7 or 8.
Any nurses who, with few patients left to vaccine that day, but more than enough vaccine to do so, then contacted folk to tell them to get to the vaccine centre quick sticks, was, for me, doing a good national service.

 

Definitely, but shouldn't they have had a list of vulnerable people to phone to get there quick sticks rather than their husband?

 

Definitely, yes. And it won’t happen again anyway as someone in London (I think) was charging top dollar to employees of some financial institute to come and jump the queue. So, now, any nurse with good intentions of ‘doing the right thing’ is scared to do so for the risk of being accused of taking a backhander.
Matters not now, anyway, as the Oxford vaccine can just be stored for the following day’s round of appointments.

 

No..

 

Mostly those who received the extra vaccinations were already with someone who was called for theirs. Don't see a big issue with it personally.

 

Nice people

 

I know some have been contacted if they had spare - better than being thrown

 

I got mine through work at the end of Jan and felt pretty guilty about getting one so early and sorta felt like I had 'cheated' the system so to speak despite being invited properly as I work within the NHS. I took it and am due my second dosage soon but did feel a little wrong me going for mine before my Gran and other more vulnerable people etc.

I'm in no way in the vulnerable category and if it wasn't for the fact I worked in the NHS I would have been one of the last on the list so did feel a little bad getting bumped up the queue.

 

I booked my mum hers last week through the online NHS site and she had it the day after which is great she works in a school and fell into the over 60s bracket so it was a relief to get her booked in.

My mother in law is a carer and came round earlier to see if I could book hers she's 60 in April but her work have told her to book so again no problems she's booked in for Monday.

I wondered if the site was just letting anyone book so popped the wife's details in and it came ineligible as she's only 37 and not an NHS worker or anything like that however I put my details in and it went straight through to book in as it did my mum and mother in law.

I'm 33 and apart from being on medication for my thyroid I'm not sure why I'm eligible? I get a letter and go for my flu jab every year but I'm not really sure why as I'm generally fit and well.

I'm in two minds whether to book I'm not sure I feel comfortable going if I'm taking up a jab but a bit concerned if I am eligible I should go and get myself vaccinated.

 

I rang up to order part of my repeat prescription and the doctors said they had been trying to get hold of me did I want my vacation so I booked it and had 5 days later the oxford one .As I do have quite a few health issues and have had them for a number of year's. To be honest I know quite a few who have been ill after i was one of the unlucky ones 8hrs after uncontrollable shaking flue like symptoms for a couple of days then back to normal. But while i was in the doctors they were ringing round to see if patients could get down for the spare jabs what people had not turned up for